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October 30, 2015

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Winter

@Lullz
"Apple is not selling even half of the phones in the price range iPhone is currently selling. Maybe a third. "

And? You know how they will double that?

Winter

@Lullz
"By selling more. Of course doubling is not needed. You are starting to sound like a broken record."

That is because I get the same, uninformative responses from you time and again. I agree with the response of Wayne Brady above.

@Wayne
"Now the Mac has been outgrowing the PC market for 10 years straight, years before the iPhone was a factor."

When I look around, the reason is Windows. Windows has a negative value for most users. As these users cannot avoid getting Windows when they buy a non-Apple computer, they have to buy the Apple product. The extra ~$1000 is what people consider it worth to avoid Windows, i.e., the negative value of Windows.

Per "wertigon" Ekström

I see Lullz doesn't know how this "forecasting thingie" works.

First we look at what is probable in the future. Some things will be more probable than others. With this we can create a model.

Then we wait and see what the result was.

Finally, we compare the model with the actual numbers, and learn why the model was flawed and what you failed to account for.

Tomi has a damn good model. Not perfect by any means, but really good. Now his model failed to predict the iPhone market share growth, but his model also did not take into account of Samsung being morons with their flagship. :)

Winter

@Lullz
"Doubling the sales is not needed to have the installed base in the 15% - 20% range by 2020."

Strange. The industry expects 6 billion Smartphones in use in 2020. 20% of that is ~1 billion. And that is twice the current installed base. Hence, the number of iPhones must double reach that level.

You say there will be less smartphones in use by then? What do you know that the industry doesn't?

Winter

@Wayne
"Nope, you can't get away by blaming Windows."

I can. Over the years I have talked to a lot of Mac(book) users. Almost without exception these people pointed to Windows as the reason they "switched".

Linux was out of the question for reasons that boiled down to computer ignorance and compagny policies.

Per "wertigon" Ekström

@Lullz:

15%-20% of all phones being non-android by 2020? So let's do the math:

Estimate: 5.5B handsets of the ones in use are smartphones by 2020, pretty reasonable and midground.

15-20% so lets say 17.5%.

This means 962.5M handsets are dumbphones or iPhones.

If the dumb->smart migration is over, all of these essentially will be iPhone. With a current installed base of about 500M users for Apple, that means they must double their installed base by 2020.

Sorry, they are good, but they are not that good. Not with a single phone. Noone is. Even Samsung only manages it with selling a lot of phones. :)

Per "wertigon" Ekström

@Lullz:

The math doesn't work.

You are entitled to your opinion of course, but Apple cannot reach 1B people without a significant change in strategy. It's just not possible even in the best of worlds.

And since quite a few things point to the world soon having a huge recession...

Neil

Apple has announced that its active installed base of devices has reached 1 billion, based on the number of iPhone, iPad, Mac, iPod touch, Apple TV and Apple Watch devices that have been engaged with the company's services within the past 90 days. Apple said the figure represents a 25% year-over-year increase in active devices.

Sounds like we may need to boost our estimation of the number of active iPhones upwards significantly considering the iPhone makes up by far the largest proportion of Apple's device sales.

Neil

Even more interesting is that figure of a 25% increase in Apple's installed base in the last 12 months alone. That means an increase of a quarter of a Billion active Apple devices in just one year.

Quite amazing particularly considering all of those devices were expensive premium devices sold by just one company. Also interesting to compare this with Google's 1.4 Billion active Android users.

Neil

Actually, I believe I miss-spoke. It looks like Sundar Pichar specifically said 1.4 Billion active DEVICES (not users) and only 1 Billion active Google Play users.

Paul

Samsung is number one and Apple is number two as market share world wide.

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