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June 18, 2015

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Lullz

@RottenApple

I know you are an Android fanboy. Hating anything that doesn't fit with your view on products you would like the people to use.

How about starting to act like adults and end the nonsense? That way someone else except the rest of the fanboys just might take you seriously? I've seen lots of young and some even older developers like you. So much passion and so much hate.

Lullz

@PWE and winter

Web apps were supposed to take over since 2010. There are lots of stories from 2010 claiming how the actual apps will become obsolete and how they will be replaced with web apps. Nothing new there.

We are yet to see the web apps taking off and one very good proof of that is the lack of them. It's questionable if there are any really complex offline capable web apps available.

Just few ears ago some people on this very blog were praising web apps and how they were just about to take over. Yet we are unable to see that single exception from anyone on this blog. There probably are few of those but no one has been able to present just one reasonably complex offline web app I could install on an Android device.

Doesn't sound like a too big issue for Apple or Google. It's just not the time. Maybe it will happen in 3, 5 or 20 year. Who know. Definitely not happening much sooner and that will give the big players time to react.

Maggan

Funny, when the iPhone launched Apple wanted developers to make web apps.

The deVelopers rebelled.

So Apple were forced to add nativa apps. And now Apple is chastised for that. Because they did what the developers wanted.

ExNokian

Like I just wrote (what's wrong with this commenting system?):

The discussion about Nokia, BlackBerry and whether it was Apple that killed them or not has been very much documented in writing. Baron95 has his own personal bias but in the end he has it mostly right:

- BlackBerry co-founder and its former co-CEO Mike Lazaridis says they couldn't compete with a mac put into a phone. (Combined with Android that offered everything better than BB and for free.)
- Tim Shepherd from Canalys says it was Apple and Google coming into the market and shifting market dynamics.
- Neil Mawston from Strategy Analytics says it was both Nokia failing to address American market and the competition brought by Apple and Android.

This should not be so difficult. Read it yourselves:

http://wp.me/p2wA3t-uN

Dominik Smogor

Apple IPhone 7 main feature will be their force feedback touch screen they have featured in latest Mac line. In terms of direct user interaction experience (for which Apple is still commanding a lead thanks unique combination of low latency and yank free fluidness) this will be the biggest innovation since bringing capacity multi touch to phones.
If they market it properly I'd expect big sales spike as IPhone fans will be tempted to upgrade faster and Samsung has nothing comparable up the sleeves.

Dominik Smogor

>>Whatever Apple does Android can match it at a cheaper-but-crappier price, but Apple cannot match whatever Android does.
The fact of the matter is for the last 7 years Android has made tremendous progress (including area of UI design in 5) but is still lagging in some areas.
Touch screen latency has come close to even 1st gen iPhone in only a handful niche devices (Nexus 5),high sound latency is still excluding Android from whole app categories (sound production), idle battery consumption is class worse but I presume its the price one pays for Google services. Sometimes its the OEMS that drop the ball (poor drivers) but the ultimate effect is while individual devices match and surpass Apple qualities, it's really hard to find one that combines them all. It's still OK for the large part of clientele but I believe these factors are adding to Apple attractiveness in its target audience.

Per "wertigon" Ekström

"Touch screen latency has come close to even 1st gen iPhone in only a handful niche devices (Nexus 5),"

Which is irrelevant to all non-gamers basicly

"high sound latency is still excluding Android from whole app categories (sound production),"

Yes, but how many smartphone users are composers?

"idle battery consumption is class worse but I presume its the price one pays for Google services."

Which is mostly irrelevant since the competition simply packs larger batteries (and btw, my Xperia Z1 can go by for several days, 4-5, without charging if I leave it idle, while the iPhone only lasts 2).

"Sometimes its the OEMS that drop the ball (poor drivers) but the ultimate effect is while individual devices match and surpass Apple qualities, it's really hard to find one that combines them all. It's still OK for the large part of clientele but I believe these factors are adding to Apple attractiveness in its target audience."

Yes, Apple is great at giving a no-fuzz functional device. If you however want to stray from that, for example by having a great camera, you can't have that. iPhone offers one flavor, vanilla, and if you happen to like any other flavor then Apple quite nicely says go screw yourself. :)

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