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April 24, 2015

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chithanh

@Leebase
Nokia had four sales events, on the first they sold 20,000 N1 devices and on the second 32,000. Numbers from the following events I could not find.

For comparison, the now discontinued Lumia 2520 Windows tablet is estimated to have sold-through not much more than 30,000 in its entire lifetime[1].

The Samsung deal is mostly about pre-installing Microsoft apps which you can download in the Google Play store anyway. And they already ran into carriers who refused this sort of thing[2]. And Cyanogen OS (*not* CyanogenMod) is too insignificant to matter at this time.

The phone division being on pause due to Windows 10, possibly. Though it would make little sense. Why hold back product launches if you could promise buyers a Windows 10 upgrade?
Or maybe it is because the top talent stayed with Nokia and now designs high-end Android devices.

[1] http://www.xda-developers.com/nokias-n1-tablet-cooked-up-success/
[2] http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/04/15/verizon-and-att-wont-pre-install-three-microsoft-apps-on-samsung-s6/

baron99

Great news and many thanks for the analysis Tomi. This is exactly what your statistics have been saying for years (you always have it correct before anyone else!) ...and it is what I have been saying too :-)

NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE!

.....except maybe those astroturfers still waiting for Moore's law Lol!

baron99

More people wanted WP than wanted Nokia tablet. How sad given that

NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE!

Don't believe the astroturfers

abdul muis

@baron99

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/37583-arm-10nm-and-16nm-finfet-cortex-designs-leaked

The FASTER ARM chip is comming, whether you ready or not.

chithanh

Paul Thurrot reports that Windows 10 is going to run Android apps on PCs, tablets and phones.
https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/android/3174/windows-android

While this is nothing new for PCs and tablets (Google ARC will allow this, too) the ability to run Android apps on Windows Phone would destroy what little incentive was left to develop Universal Apps.

(If true, this probably means that Microsoft found out that nobody was going to develop Universal Apps anyway, and sacrificed them for to ensure the survival of their mobile operating system)

charly

It is also the game plan in embrace, extent, extinguish. True for Microsoft and as a counter move to the killing by Google of ASOP

baron99

NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE!
Now Microsoft tries to turn their phones into PCs.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-10-continuum-for-phones
The Moore's law reached them but they forgot that NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PC EITHER!

adi purbakala

@baron99

Symbian & android also able to be computer. Use HDMI and usb keyboard and mouse on n8. And become computer. Android is the same. Use screen mirror, usb otg on mouse/keyboard.

Windows just playing catch. Its no new tech.

AndThisWillBeToo

@adi
Symbian was still stuck to its minimal screen resolution and could only run Symbian apps. In Microsoft vision your phone expands to larger resolution and can run Win32 apps.

Will they pull it off? Maybe.
Will it make Microsoft big in Mobile? No.
They do this to protect their desktop business from slipping to phones and tablets running Android and iOS.

John A

Windows Phone 10 will run Android apps with some tweaking and minor code changes.
Project Astoria, if it will "save" Windows Phone its to early to tell.

Well if the normal user get Snapchat and other applications to the platform maybe it will get some userbase after all.
I guess Microsoft have the money to keep it alive a long time if they want.

It be two flagship models in the autumn. Lumia Cityman and Lumia Talkman.

baron99

BTW, some of these baron99 posts are not mine. But at least these fake baron99 posts get the main point correct

NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE!

abdul muis

Just a quick post....

Before the WP (Windows Phone), the Microsoft OS named Windows Mobile (WM)
and a few hours ago Microsoft just announce their new OS will be named Windows 10 Mobile (WM-10?)

From WM to WP to WM again?
LOL

RottenApple

... sounds like a despeate attempt to distance themselves from failure. :D

But this only makes sense if they provide a fully working Windows for ARM, not the same castrated garbage as previous WP and RT versions. That'd be the only option to ever have successs, i.e. offer something profound the competition does not.

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