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December 05, 2014

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Tester

@Earendil Star:

Your posts are so pathetically insane and delusional that even Microsoft haters question your sanity. You are posting bullshit. Period.

Believe me, I have no love for Microsoft's actions but that doesn't mean that I swallow the nonsense you post. Grow up or seek help!

Huber

@Baron95:

"You don't you complain to Porsche and Mercedes why they don't let you boot load their engine control computers, their infotainment computers, their stability control computers, with your own ROMs, and why you can't access their file system?"

This is a new low even for you, Baron. Are you trolling or are you really _THAT_ clueless?

You cannot access the file system on your car for the same reason that you cannot access the file system on an Airbus 380 or a nuclear power plant:

IF THESE COMPUTERS CRASH, PEOPLE WILL DIE!

Also you cannot access the file system on your corporation's SAP ERP system because IF IT CRASHES, EACH HOUR OF SYSTEM DOWNTIME COSTS x MILLION DOLLARS!

When I mess up my private phone, basically nothing happens. _THIS_ is the major difference. Everybody on this board should understand this simple concept, so I do not understand why you post such nonsense here at all.

John Alatalo

I wonder about Microsoft strategy, it seems like they will keep Nokia X and Asha now with a new deal with Opera:

"Following an agreement between Opera Software and Microsoft, Opera Mobile Store will replace Nokia Store as the default app store for Nokia’s feature phones, Symbian and Nokia X smartphones. During the first half of 2015, the Nokia Store will be replaced by Opera Mobile Store."

Why make that deal if they would kill Nokia X and Asha and replace those with cheap Lumia models?

eduardom

Intel's failed attempts to succeed in mobile:

http://www.mondaynote.com/2014/12/14/the-intel-enigma/

AndThisWillBeToo

@eduardom
That was entertaining read and reflects interestingly against Tomi's praise of Intel the MeeGo partner.

RottenApple

@Baron95:

"All I am saying is that: IT MEANS NOTHING. Who cares, won't move the needle, no one will notice, it is a "I'm still here" move. No one cares."

If no one cares, why are we discussing...? :p

I think everybody agrees - including Tomi - that it really is an 'I'm still here' move. But you are wrong about the rest. People do notice, and some do care. You are again making your typical mistake and view this from the American point of view - a market where Nokia never had a strong position. But there are markets in the world that Nokia utterly dominated before Elop came along - and in many of those markets Nokia still has a good reputation, despite the non-selling Windows phones. So all this is is a signal to these potential customers, saying 'Just wait, we'll be back!' Whether it really works remains to be seen. One or two more years of waiting until they can release a phone again may well be too long. But if they do nothing right now they'll certainly be forgotten.

togga

@baron95 Any straw-grasping is way better than the WP disaster death-pill.

Nokia is obviously warming up consumers to a new Nokia Android-world. They will make sure to make the SW seamless. There is a huge "real" Nokia-fans (in contrast to camouflaged MS-astroturfers) waiting for a come-back so there is a market potential. Now, they need to aim for phones and some new features (new experiences).

baron99

http://bgr.com/2014/12/11/windows-phone-is-dead-2/

baron99

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/576232/20141217/gartner-s-q3-market-share-smartphones.htm

and we all know (...well just the astroturfers), the carriers just LOVE windows. Yeah right.... LoL!

http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-verizon-convinced-me-to-give-up-my-windows-phone/

http://www.mobileburn.com/23944/news/why-windows-phone-struggles-in-the-united-states

baron99

...and now the Chinese are abandoning windows phone too ....Good-by to a crappy OS

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nobody-made-any-money-in-windows-phone-says-huawei-executive-629351

...and thank god they are out of the cars - Microsoft software in a moving vehicle is just plain scary ...and stupid.

baron99

...and more on the windows phone "death spiral" from the developer community

http://betanews.com/2014/12/08/windows-phone-has-a-massive-apps-problem/

baron99

....and more from the developer community

http://betanews.com/2014/12/08/windows-phone-has-a-massive-apps-problem/

AndThisWillBeToo

@baron99
....and more if you had remembered to mention news from the developer community

http://betanews.com/2014/12/08/windows-phone-has-a-massive-apps-problem/

eduardom

Most Coolpad phones have a backdoor installed in the ROM

threatpost.com/manufacturers-backdoor-found-on-popular-chinese-android-smartphone/109929

adi purbakala

ALL windows OS has backdoor by USA

AndThisWillBeToo

@adi purbakala
As has all Google OS (Android), all Apple OS (iOS, OS X) and whatever remains of other U.S. orginated OSes are left. If you plan to avoid that, pick Ubuntu, Sailfish OS or Firefox OS.

baron99

Clearly windows phone is dead ...only the pathetic astroturfers think is has some sort of future. They have been telling us this fairy tale for YEARS! Just too funny.

AndThisWillBeToo

@baron99/Earendil Star/Duke/John Waclawsky
What astroturfers? I haven't seen a single comment pro Microsoft/WP since your links above. Try to keep up: the discussion here has mostly moved to viability of Apple strategy and chances of Android makes to bring up innovations or high-margin, high price smartphones that would bring in profits that each and every company needs to stay alive.

adi purbakala

@andthiswollbetoo

I answer @eduaword say coolpad has china backdoor. I mean yiu said. We not secure. All os is agent

RottenApple

Let's be clear about Microsoft:

It's not that they do not stand a chance in mobile - it's that they do not stand a chance with their current products. It's their current Windows Phone that's basically a zombie.

Windows Phone as it is now is just a bad platform. And nothing will change if Microsoft doesn't play to their strengths - and weirdly they don't.
Even Windows 10 looks like the phone version of their OS is missing out on the most compelling aspect of the Windows ecosystem, namely to run desktop apps. Their entire focus seems to be to make Metro the unifying component. But how is that supposed to work if all 'serious' software doesn't use it? Business software - especially the kind that is custom made - needs other means of distribution, not an app store. It also needs extremely fast turnaround cycles, not some approvement bottleneck the software's maker cannot control. If they release a fully featured Windows for ARM version to run on their phones - then I'd give them a good chance. Recompiling some existing software is far, far easier than completely rewriting it (and putting yourself at the mercy of some external approvement mechanism.)

I agree that Windows Phone has some chance to sell in the undiscriminating low end sector. But even there I do not see long term success. The moment its users realize that they get short-changed on what they can do with their phones they may decide that their next phone uses a more competetive OS. Even if web based services migrate to using web apps in the long term, that still leaves things that cannot be easily done through a web browser. But we will see how much the Nokia brand helped move stuff. Microsoft has just started discontinuing its use so most of the devices in the stores still use the Nokia brand, fooling the ones that do not know. But that will change pretty fast.

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