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July 18, 2014

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WonTheLottery

It's been revealed Samsung have another two Tizen devices in the offing, the SM-Z130E and the SM-Z130H. The model numbers suggest low end devices (the Z denotes Tizen, the 1 denotes low end) as opposed to the delayed SM-Z910F (Samsung Z) which was much higher up the scale.

Samsung have stated Tizen runs fine on as little as 256 mb of RAM and these two new devices are rumoured to be targeting the £40-£50 price point.

An interesting development considering India is the largest market that has yet to be converted to smartphones and Microsoft has just driven another nail into the coffin of India's favourite brand.

Spawn

http://www.businessinsider.com/satya-nadella-is-cleaning-up-steve-ballmers-mess-2014-7

"It's a waste of time and effort to invest so much in Windows Phones from Nokia that have failed to gain significant market share in a world dominated by the iPhone and Android."

This sentence is pure gold. Windows Phone *is* Nokia's (burning) platform since nobody else uses / stands on it. Elops 'war of ecosystem' was lost, as was confirmed by Bill Gates a year ago, and its shut down by Nadella now. Unfortunately that includes whats left of Nokia since everything else what Nokia had was shutdown by Elop during his war-of-ecosystem years as Nokia CEO.

And who keeps his job? The 30 million dollar man, S. Elop.
What a horrible world.

Spawn

@WonTheLottery

"Samsung have stated Tizen runs fine on as little as 256 mb of RAM"

So does Android. The limited memory only turns into a problem once you start applications. Granted not at Tizen because there are no apps at Tizen :-)

"these two new devices are rumoured to be targeting the £40-£50 price point"

$50 smartphone-devices are there already since a while now. They all run Android kitkat, apps work fine.

epdm

Can someone please answer me this:

Micro$oft produced the richest men on the planet. People who's hobby is being a philanthropist and donating money to good causes (see link below).

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database

Yet they can't or won't support the welfare and jobs of their employees?

Why does nobody questioned this?

cornelius

@ WonTheLottery and Spawn
It seems that FirefoxOS is attacking Microsoft's low cost flank with $25 handsets. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/17/firefox_os_global_expansion/
So WP is completely surrounded by Linux based OSes.

@ epdm
It does make sense for Gates to donate to charities because he gets tax breaks for that. Keeping the employees doesn't help with the IRS.
Also, Microsoft donates a lot of licenses to Universities if they agree to replace non-Microsoft software and teach using Microsoft technologies (and Microsoft gets a tax break as well). For example for a web programming course scrap php and teach asp. Or scrap PostgreSQL and teach SQL Server, or C# instead of Java and so on. Later when the graduates will be tasked to build a solution they will recommend buying software from Microsoft.

Spawn

@cornelius

> Microsoft's low cost flank

There is no low cost flank from Microsoft. Microsoft is not present at all. They are not existing. They not even have anything to offer. There is no battle and there will be no.

FirefoxOS shares problems with Tizen and ChromeOS: HTML5-apps, hype and reality. The later both are adapting, native rich API's. FirefoxOS not so far. I doubt rhey can compete against Android with such limitations in place.

John Fro

Microsoft's phone strategy was forced on by outside investors interested in Apple style profits and ROI's. They would have been perfectly content milking the desktop enterprise software market where they are very popular, but Apple did so well it seemed to threaten their entire ecosystem. Google earns far less from Android, but them in combination with Apple was too much for many MS investors and the board would have rebelled much earlier against Ballmer-Gates than they did. The problem is that phones are a complete mismatch for MS, which makes money off of a interconnected web of enterprise software products businesses can't seem to live without. So, the investors want a MS phone, but no-one in the company really cares about it and no one is going to lose their jobs (unless directly involved) if the phones fail. I'm sure that senior management is telling the board that their phone strategy will take a decade like it did with XBox. And the stock price is up 20% this year, so I'm sure the complaints have gone down.

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