Well, it seems that Gartner will not give us their count for Q1 of 2014 smartphone market. So I will do the average of the 3 houses that did report - Canalys, IDC and Strategy Analytics. This does mean we have more room for error. Also I have less data points for various players that I report on. But we'll do the best we can, this is still reasonably accurate. I am hoping Gartner will release Q2 data somewhere in early July and in that, hopefully give the comparison to Q1, so we can then retroactively check and perhaps correct these numbers. But we've waited long enough. So the big race Top 10 biggest smarpthone makers in Q1 of 2014:
BIGGEST SMARTPHONE MANUFACTURERS BY UNIT SALES IN Q1 2014
Rank . . Manufacturer . Units . . . Market Share . Was Q4 2013 . . OS systems supported (coming)
1 (1) . . Samsung . . . . 86.8 M . . 30.7% . . . . . . . ( 29.3% ) . . . . . . Android, Windows (Tizen)
2 (2) . . Apple . . . . . . . 43.7 M . . 15.5% . . . . . . . ( 17.8% ) . . . . . . iOS
3 (3) . . Huawei . . . . . . 18.2 M . . . 6.4% . . . . . . . ( 6.1% ) . . . . . . Android (Tizen)
4 (4) . . Lenovo . . . . . . 14.1 M . . . 5.0% . . . . . . . ( 4.7% ) . . . . . . Android (Tizen)
5 (5) . . LG . . . . . . . . . 12.3 M . . . 4.4% . . . . . . . ( 4.6% ) . . . . . . Android
6 (6) . . ZTE . . . . . . . . . 11.4 M . . . 4.0% . . . . . . . ( 3.8% ) . . . . . . Android, Windows (Firefox)
7 (8) . . Coolpad/Yulong . 11.1 M . . . 3.9% . . . . . . . ( 3.7% ) . . . . . . Android
8 ( - ) . Xiaomi . . . . . . . .11.0 M . . . 3.9% . . . . . . . ( 2.6% ) . . . . . . Android
9 (7) . . Sony . . . . . . . . . . 9.6 M . . . 3.4% . . . . . . . ( 3.7% ) . . . . . . Android
10 (9) . Nokia (Microsoft) . 7.1 M . . . 2.5% . . . . . . . ( 2.9% ) . . . . . . Windows, Android
Others . . . . . . . . . . . . 53.8 M
TOTAL . . . . . . . . . . . 282.6 M
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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So as I warned a while back, Xiaomi of China has now entered the Top 10 (kicking out HTC). The top of the chart is rather stable, the movement was modest near the bottom of the table. Samsung is almost exactly twice as large as its nearest rival, Apple at number 2. Samsung grew sales 3% from Q4 of 2014 while Apple saw declining sales -14% in the same period. Meanwhile Apple is safely more than twice as large as the number 3 chasing it, Huawei. Huawei grew 4% from Q4 but that is the seasonal gift-giving season in China (Chinese New Year) so this is not necessarily the pattern that will hold for the full year.
Next lets look at smartphone OS wars. And this is truly over. Its Android.
BIGGEST SMARTPHONE OPERATING SYSTEMS BY UNIT SALES IN Q1 2014
Rank . OS Platform . . . . Units . . . . Market share . Was Q4 2013 . . Manufacturers in Top 10
1 (1) . . Android . . . . . . . 229.0 M . . 81.0 % . . . . . ( 77.4 %) . . . . . Samsung, LG Huawei, ZTE, Lenovo, Sony, Yulong/Coolpad, HTC
2 (2) . . iOS . . . . . . . . . . 43.7 M . . 15.5 % . . . . . ( 17.9 %) . . . . . Apple
3 (3) . . Windows Phone . . 6.2 M . . . 2.2 % . . . . . ( 2.9 %) . . . . . . Samsung, Nokia
4 (4) . . Blackberry . . . . . . 3.4 M . . . 1.1 % . . . . . ( 1.5 %) . . . . . . (None)
others . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.3 M . . . 0.1 % . . . . . ( 0.2 %)
TOTAL . . . . . . . . . . . . 282.6 M
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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So yeah. Android powers more than four out of every five smartphones sold. Apple sells most of the rest. As we do also know the Blackberry number, there is truly no space for Windows Phone to do more than what I have for it, at 6.2 million and 2.2% market share (down from 8.3 million and 2.9% market share in Q4). There is no room whatsoever even for 3% market share for Windows Phone, as reported by some. The math does not add up that way.
What of the installed base of smartphones then? Lets update those numbers for Q1 and we get this:
INSTALLED BASE OF SMARTPHONES BY OPERATING SYSTEM AS OF 31 MARCH 2014
Rank . OS Platform . . . . Units . . . Market share Was Q4 2013 . Main Manufacturers of current base
1 . . . . Android . . . . . . 1,209 M . . . 69 % . . . . . . ( 66 %) . . . . . . Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Lenovo, ZTE, LG, Coolpad, HTC, Xiaomi, SonyEricsson
2 . . . . iOS . . . . . . . . . 353 M . . . 21 % . . . . . . ( 21 %) . . . . . . Apple
3 . . . . Symbian . . . . . . 58 M . . . 4 % . . . . . . ( 5 %) . . . . . . Nokia, Sharp, Panasonic, Fujitsu
4 . . . . Blackberry . . . . . 52 M . . . 3 % . . . . . . ( 4 %) . . . . . . Blackberry
5 . . . . Windows Phone . . 50 M . . . 3 % . . . . . . ( 3 %) . . . . . . Nokia, Samsung, HTC, Huawei
Others . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 M . . . 1 %
TOTAL Installed Base . 1,748 M smartphones in use at end of Q1, 2014
Sources: TomiAhonen Almanac 2014 and TomiAhonen Consulting 3 June 2014
This data may be freely used and repeated
Yeah, Symbian is still the third largest smartphone OS by installed base even though its well past a year since they stopped making the devices. Blackberry still holds fourth ranking, barely ahead of Windows Phone as the fifth ecosystem.
Now on those Nokia X Series running on Android. As we know the ceiling of how many is maximum Windows Phone could have sold, and we know that Samsung and HTC still sell some WP phones as well, not just Nokia, but Samsung and HTC primarily sell in the US market and their combined contribution is about 10% of total Windows Phone sales, we get a (very rough) estimate of Windows Phone split like this:
WINDOWS PHONE MANUFACTURERS
Nokia . . . . . . . 5.6 M . . . 90%
Samsung . . . . 0.3 M . . . 5%
HTC . . . . . . . . 0.3 M . . . 5%
TOTAL Q1 . . . 6.2 M
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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That gives us the Nokia rough number of Windows Phone/Lumia sales at 5.6 million, and we can then calculate the Nokia X Android number at 1.5 million. So Nokia's Lumia vs X split is like this:
NOKIA Q1 PRODUCT MIX BY PLATFORM
Lumia on Windows Phone . . . .5.6 M . . . 79%
Nokia X on Android . . . . . . . . . 1.4 M . . . 21%
TOTAL Nokia smartphones . . . 7.1 M . . .
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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And a progression of Lumia sales from its peak when MIcrosoft sale was announced:
Lumia sales Q3 of 2013 . . . . . 8.8 M units . . . . 3.3% market share of all smarpthones
Lumia sales Q4 of 2013 . . . . . 8.2 M units . . . . 2.9% market share of all smartphones
Lumia sales Q1 of 2014 . . . . . 5.6 M units . . . . 2.0% market share of all smartphones
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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Clearly the world of the smartphone market has NOT fallen in love with the idea that Microsoft will take over Nokia's smartphone business, and the pairing of 'Good Cop/Bad Cop' where Nokia was good and Microsoft bad, now being only 'Bad Cop' is producing continuously falling sales of Lumia and Windows Phone (as I predicted). After this quarter, the Nokia handset business shifted to Microsoft's ownership and we may get even more fuzzy details about their handset business, lets see, But it won't be long before Nokia/Microsoft would fall out of the Top 10 anyway.
Then on the Android. This is also getting very boring as the Android internal market shares now start to mirror those of the overall market shares, as Android is such a massive part of all smartphone sales. But lets do this. The split of Android makers looks like this:
ANDROID MANUFACTURERS:
Samsung . . . . . 31%
Huawei . . . . . . . 6%
Lenovo . . . . . . . . 5%
LG . . . . . . . . . . . 4%
ZTE . . . . . . . . . . 4%
Coolpad . . . . . . . 4%
Xiaomi . . . . . . . . 4%
Others . . . . . . . 42%
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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But for those who want the Samsung split, it looks like this:
SAMSUNG PRODUCT MIX Q1 2014
Android . . . . . . . . . 86.5 M . . . 99.7%
Windows Phone . . . . 0.3 M. . . . 0.3%
Total . . . . . . . . . . . 86.8 M
Source: TomiAhonen Consulting Analysis 3 June 2014, based on manufacturer and industry data
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Thats about all folks. If you want Q4 of 2013 numbers and the full year 2013 numbers of the bloodbath, they are here.
More Bloodbath stats for 2014 when Q2 data comes out...
PS if you need stats on mobile industry, the brand new TomiAhonen Almanac 2014 edition is out.
As for the state of the mobile market, Stephen Elop was proved right in the end. Android is a gravitational black hole that has smashed all its competitors.
BB7 - still has a toehold in the corporate world and support in some emerging markets. Ancient technology and no future. Will disappear in about a year I reckon.
BB10 - this must be the most disastrous operating system ever released. It's market share is rounded to 0%, it has no support whatsoever and has just about bankrupted Blackberry. They really need to just put a spike through it at this stage.
Windows Phone - they won the battle for third place, but at a terrible cost. While I have seen lots of Lumia 520's (sold at a loss) in the wild, I have never seen a 1520 or a 1020 (devices with the highest profit margin). I think Microsoft are hoping that customers will eventually move from their loss-leading 520's to 1520's or 1020's where a profit can be made. No signs of this happening but Microsoft won't be giving up anytime soon.
Jolla - unlike Microsoft or Blackberry, Jolla have no legacy issues and are running a very lean operation. They also have the benefit of some small fanatical support. I think they can survive as a niche player, but they will never go beyond that.
FirefoxOS - I bought one of the developer devices. I thought it was cheap, nasty and horrible to use. Out of all the mobile OS's, it's the worst one I have used and I don't see how it can catch up with the market. Shame.
Apple - losing market share, but still retains a top position in the premium market segment. Just like with the desktop PC market, I think they will retain a constant 10-15% market share and continue to make good profits.
Posted by: Brian Stephens | June 06, 2014 at 12:11 PM
@Brian Stephens
You clearly have not read Tomi's blog. Nokia with Symbian was growing MORE than competition and carriers and smartphone brands were lined up behind MeeGo (including China Mobile that had selected MeeGo as their default smartphone OS and NTT DoCoMo that had just confirmed their long support for Symbian).
Android was not going to smash Nokia, NOKIA WAS WINNING!!!
Posted by: AndThisWillBeToo | June 06, 2014 at 03:55 PM
@AndThisWillBeTo
"carriers and smartphone brands were lined up behind MeeGo"
When did this happen? I don't remember seeing anything indicating that was the case. Do you have any links proving that?
"China Mobile that had selected MeeGo as their default smartphone OS"
This is also something I've never seen happening. Where did you get info like that? Links?
Posted by: Ooteb | June 06, 2014 at 04:20 PM
@Brian Stephens: He was absolutely not right but rather wrong. See how NOkia X is selling. If Tomi is right with 1,5 mio Nokia X sold - with limited hw! - you can imagine how it would sell if full scale profoli is there supported with Nokia brand and 'biggest ever' marketing campaign spent on Lumias - with moderate effectiveness, at maximum...
Gosh, even low end Lumias have better hw than Nokia X!
@Ooteb: China Mobile selected MeeGo as default smartphone platform (see how N9 was selling there, especially if we see how expensive it was for average people).
But it is old story we cannot change anything. I just would like to see success of Nokia X family - as clear indication how big mistake that guy made. Or how genius he was - it depends... :-)
Posted by: zlutor | June 06, 2014 at 06:43 PM
Losers:
Apple -2.2%
Nokia -0.4%
Sony -0.3%
LG -0.2%
Blackberry -0.4%
Winners:
Samsung +1.4%
Xiaomi +1.3%
Huawei +0.3%
Lenovo +0.3%
ZTE +0.2%
Coolpad/Yulong +0.2%
Posted by: newbie | June 06, 2014 at 07:29 PM
@Ooteb
Tomi us my source. Here he talks about other manufacturers:
"So what of Nokia's MeeGo project? It was developed with Intel, and MeeGo is actually not dead either. Its quite a good OS even in its early forms, and already powers some netbooks. There are more than a dozen manufacturers committed to MeeGo"
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/03/preview-bloodbath-2-electric-boogaloo-the-smartphone-wars-in-year-2011-will-be-bloodier-still.html
Whereas for carriers we have tons of stuff but I now just take the CMCC:
"MeeGo was pure gold for Nokia - China Mobile, the world's largest mobile operator/carrier had already selected MeeGo as their default smartphone OS"
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/06/sherlock-holmes-and-the-hounds-of-the-basket-case-clues-on-the-trail-of-elop-ballmer-and-nokias-boar.html
And as we all know Tomi is good with his facts I believe I don't have to add any other public sources for those.
Posted by: AndThisWillBeToo | June 06, 2014 at 10:46 PM
@AndThisWillBeToo
I didn't see those links proving that "carriers and smartphone brands were lined up behind MeeGo" or that "China Mobile that had selected MeeGo as their default smartphone OS". Far from it. Saying that "There are more than a dozen manufacturers committed to MeeGo" really proves nothing because there can be various levels of commitment and nit knowing how committed they really were makes that kind of statement almost pointless.
"MeeGo was pure gold for Nokia - China Mobile, the world's largest mobile operator/carrier had already selected MeeGo as their default smartphone OS" can also have various meanings. We really don't know what default smartphone OS means. For someone default may mean exclusivity and for someone else it can be one of the default choices the operator offers for the customers. It also doesn't guarantee the sales no matter which one of those two it would be.
Have you anything else or something more concrete about those matters?
Posted by: Ooteb | June 07, 2014 at 11:09 AM
I enjoy to read Tomis blog, very interesting. But is "the smartphone war" realy over?
Apple /iOS (iOS 8) will probably make larger devices in fall.
So maybe 4", 5" and 6" inch iPhones.
So I guess many will buy those, especially now that the 5" inch display is a sort of a standard for most devices.
And for Windows Phone 8.1 I saw a lot of new OEM.s for it in the Computex 2014 event.
I think the total numbers for Windows Phone are now 18 OEM brands.
The Windows platform is now free for all devices under 9" inch now so no more licensing cost to add for manufactors as before.
And those handsets will be out in Q3 or Q4 2014. In that perspective I am not sure if Android will be able to have like 80 % marketshare in Q4 and later in 2015.
Yes Google/Android will be still Nr.1 but I think they have their "peak" now.
Posted by: Henrik Nergard. | June 07, 2014 at 11:33 AM
About the Nokia X serie there is a new version on its way now. Nokia X2 with a lot of better specs than Nokia X and Nokia XL:
"Nokia X2 Specifications
•4.3-inch 480×800 touchscreen
•5 MP rear camera
•0.3 MP front camera
•1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 200 processor
•Adreno 305 GPU
•1 GB of RAM
•4 GB of built-in storage
•Android 4.3
Nokia X2 is clearly an upgrade of the Nokia X which had a 4 inch screen, 3MP rear camera, no front camera, 512MB of RAM and was clocked at 1GHz."
And the rumours say at it will be launced in India at end of june. I think in the long run this can be a threat against Google, Google Play and Google services.
Its now seems clear that Microsoft must have been along with this ideá with Nokia from the start.
Posted by: John Alatalo | June 07, 2014 at 11:50 AM
@Henrik Nergard
Quote:
"Apple /iOS (iOS 8) will probably make larger devices in fall.
So maybe 4", 5" and 6" inch iPhones.
So I guess many will buy those, especially now that the 5" inch display is a sort of a standard for most devices."
Americans, British, Australian, Japanese, Canadian will buy it. Other country beside this 5 country doesn't tie up to iOS/apple as this 5 country were. The thing is, some will think that apple ALREADY LOOSING THE WAR by COPYING ANDROID/SAMSUNG, and make apple lose the prestige of being the TECHNOLOGY LEADER.
Quote:
"And for Windows Phone 8.1 I saw a lot of new OEM.s for it in the Computex 2014 event.
I think the total numbers for Windows Phone are now 18 OEM brands.
The Windows platform is now free for all devices under 9" inch now so no more licensing cost to add for manufactors as before."
The real question is WHO WANNA BUY that ugly window phone device? The one who bought nokia lumia is because of NOKIA BRAND.
Quote:
"And those handsets will be out in Q3 or Q4 2014. In that perspective I am not sure if Android will be able to have like 80 % marketshare in Q4 and later in 2015.
Yes Google/Android will be still Nr.1 but I think they have their "peak" now."
I don't think Microsoft can pull some magic easily. If they can, they already have AT LEAST 10% of market share right now
Posted by: Abdul Muis | June 07, 2014 at 02:16 PM
@John Alatalo
LOL. The one that buy Nokia X is because they want Nokia, but don't want S40/WP.
The one that want android WON'T BUY THE HALF HEARTED NOKIA X. Nokia X is NOT A GREAT android device compared to other brand android device at the same price level.
Posted by: Abdul Muis | June 07, 2014 at 02:19 PM
@ExNokian
Quote:
"As a sidenote, it's interesting to see 4-5 different nicknames use "NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE" over and over again. Especially considering the track to here. Every now and then it has been asked (by me or someone else) that who is it then that buys those literal millions of Windows Phones every quarter if "no one" wants them? And every time the usual suspects here have to take more effort to find explanation for those sales."
I'm NOT saying that no one want WP/lumia at all. Here is a quote of myself from above
"The real question is WHO WANNA BUY that ugly window phone device? The one who bought nokia lumia is because of NOKIA BRAND."
I said that Lumia were sold JUST BECAUSE nokia brand. For a comparison, just see samsung and HTC where there were both android and wp that were equal in quality (NOT half hearted android joke). Samsung sold 88.8 million android & only sold 0.3 million wp. Whereas HTC also sold more android than wp.
Don't forget that there still nokia NON SMARTPHONE user. nokia still sell non-smartphone in truck load till now. This is one of the user that were happy with lumia. because they have no other phone to compare. They knowledge were nokia is THE BEST PHONE (non-smartphone), other brand were crappy. When they want to buy the smartphone, they preference is also nokia, and since they have previous experience is non-smartphone, then wp is the greatest phone they ever use, thus happy.
Posted by: Abdul Muis | June 08, 2014 at 04:03 AM
@Abdul Muis
Did you even see the new Windows Phone 8.1 devices or just imaging how they look? Many of them looking good:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-phone/previewing-new-windows-phone-81-handsets
So I dont think you can say all are ugly.
And they got around 10 % already in markets like UK, Germany, France, Italy, Poland and some other markets.
Mexico and also places in Asia like Vietnam.
(Kantar Worldpanel statistic)
Yes, it will take long time to grow. But with Windows Phone 8.1 I think Microsoft have much of the stuff in place now. Support for dual SIM, VPN support for companies and a lot of other stuff.
Posted by: Henrik Nergard. | June 08, 2014 at 09:00 PM
Those still hoping for a recovery of MS, ie, WP, to world dominance: Remember that 1Q 2014 unit sales are LOWER than 1Q sales of last year.
In a fast growing market MS actually manages to get lower year over year sales.
Posted by: Winter | June 09, 2014 at 01:23 AM
@Henrik
Does it really matter if microsoft have 1000 3RD tier manufacture at their side? Like I said, look at samsung and HTC. Both of them only manage to sell 300,000 WP device, while they sell millions of android device. BOTH HTC and samsung device were considered offering the same wp level with their android counterpart.
The problem is not it were good (or bad), but:
1. If we do the app count/quality. Microsoft still loosing the support of many QUALITY apps developer.
2. If we look at the user interface, while the WP user interface might seems fluid, but it doesn't bring any goodness to it. It is boring and iritating.
3. There were lots of component manufacture that support android because of it's open nature. For example in CPU, WP only support qualcom, but android manufacture buy more qualcom than wp. Thus qualcom support to android is better compared to wp. Not to mention affordable CPU maker such as mediatek, broadcom, etc support android. Thus making android device have more option. This is not something can be turn around over night.
4. It is perceive the general public that wp can't beat the android (competition) for the same amount of $$.
10%. Is the 10% sustainable... that's the real question!!! I bet around 90% of this '10%' bought wp because it has nokia as witnesses that nokia rule 90% of WP market. If that the real reason, does 1000 3rd manufacture on microsoft side really matter?
Somehow I think microsoft will dump WP, and fork android. BUT, tomi doesn't think so.
Posted by: Abdul Muis | June 09, 2014 at 07:38 AM
Wow! talk about wishful thinking: that WP will amount to anything! We have been hearing this same totally "ridiculous" song and dance for years and years and years and years ...ad nauseum! Don't the astroturfers read what Tomi said: the WP share is "decreasing". It's desperation time for Microsoft and they still have no clue why no one likes windows/microsoft after decades of buggy, virus laden, unimaginative, unintuitive, forced down your throat, overpriced, slow, crappy software. Now go ask the developers what they think about microsoft software, then the operators etc. The microsoft astroturfers are just totally delusional. This is just so so funny to listen to their absurd nonsense over and over and over again, year in and year out. Seriously, why don't you guys get a life? ...you guys are embarrassing yourselves!
Posted by: baron99 | June 09, 2014 at 05:50 PM
Some more replies
Wayne - yeah. Imagine if Nokia had just done the sensible thing - introducing Windows Phone alongside the current platform (Symbian) and letting both live side-by-side until Windows Phone (potentially) proved itself. Without the Burning Platforms memo etc. The way EVERY other handset maker EVER has done when introducing a new rival platform (they don't kill the current one). Nokia customers would have been presented a fair set of options on Symbian and Windows Phone. The Lumia sales would have been roughly what they are (actually a bit less as some who were 'forced' to buy Lumia would have taken Symbian) but as Symbian Ovi had the worlds' second biggest app store when Burning Platforms Memo came out - and was closing the gap to Apple - Symbian would have had a big market opportunity for much of this decade - as the lower end platorm of simple low-cost devices - plus the occasional superphone - like the 808 Pureview that Windows Phone 7.x could not support at the time. Symbian would be safely the second biggest ecosystem - as it had nearly a dozen manufacturers still supporting it in the start of 2011 including most big Japanese smartphone makers except Sony.
And - yeah. Blackberry has been destroyed by its management. I cannot possibly forecast that a management starts behaving destructively. You And, cannot also 'accuse' me of being a 'bad forecaster' if I am unable to see an individual player suddenly commit suicide as Nokia did or as Blackberry did. If RIM/Blackberry had behaved sensibly, they'd be far bigger than Windows Phone now. Do you really want to argue that Blackberry put up a fair fight to Windows Phone or did WP inherit third ranking because Blackberry tanked? Please be reasonable And. Most of my readers are adults and behave like adults. I would hope you could grow up too and see that I do my best here...
asdfsd - thanks, yeah. I have the IDC numbers and as always the primary input is to the total market size
baron99 - haha, yeah.. And sadly, the industry could use a strong player to challenge Apple and Google for the OS wars but Windows was never destined to be it. And now the way Samsung is rolling out Tizen, that doesn't look in any way promising either.
Rotten - haha, yeah. There was just today a news story of literally 'a slew' of new smartphones on Windows Phone. They listed three brands that nobody has ever heard of. This while a quarter of Nokia smartphones are already on Android and Samsung's Windows Phone proportion is at under 1% haha... A slew indeed.
Lodbrok - was typo in early edition. Has been corrected. But thanks for input!
keep the discussion going...
Tomi Ahonen :-)
Posted by: Tomi T Ahonen | June 09, 2014 at 06:10 PM
@ExNokian
I don't know about the French market but I can give you some insight into the UK:
The 520 was recently being knocked out at £35 from carphonewharehouse.
Going back to when the x20 Lumias were first being released the Lumia 800 was being punted out in the bargain bins in supermarkets. Presumably the disposal of redundant stock.
The 520 and 800 are the only Windows Phones I've ever seen in the wild.
You might be impressed by Nokia's UK market share but I'd be surprised if they've made a dollar of profit in the UK since Elop pulled the plug on Symbian.
For argument's sake let's say Tomi's been completely wrong in every forecast he's ever made, that doesn't change the fact Nokia absolutely tanked under Elop's 'leadership', does it?
It doesn't change the fact that the sales of a Samsung device running Windows Phone are pitiful compared to the sales of a similar Samsung device running Android, does it?
Exclusively adopting Windows Phone was catastrophic for Nokia irrespective of anything Tomi's ever said or done in his entire life.
Posted by: WonTheLottery | June 09, 2014 at 06:25 PM
@WonThwLottery ...you need to spell it out for the astroturfers in a way they will understand.
All the data says: NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE!
LoL!!
Posted by: baron99 | June 09, 2014 at 07:18 PM
After tiresome YEARS of saying it will get better for microsoft (wait for this version, that release, this phone, that feature etc and now we are to believe "minimal" progress) they still don't have a clue. I guess hope springs eternal for the whiny microsoft astroturfers ....for everyone else please see my two previous posts.
Posted by: baron99 | June 09, 2014 at 08:51 PM