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April 25, 2013

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Janne Särkelä

@CN

Well, if you check out this chart of quarterly sales since 2007 there is a pattern: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/0b80bf3cdc3194f8e35dfa67baa0d80a.png

In four cases Q2 is less than Q1, and in two cases Q2 is more. If the markets were stable too I'd guess the dip would be more prominent in the chart.

Similar pattern can be observed with Nokia.

There exists a seasonal variation, which is amplified or attenuated by other factors, which add noise... For example if the company is on a growth/decline path the the dip would be hidden.

zlutor

@John Phamlore: "Nokia worked with Intel to develop MeeGo, which meant no CDMA MeeGo handsets for Sprint or Verizon and no LTE MeeGo handsets for any market at all" - why?

Android supports many solutions, MeeGo is Linux, too. I think hw adaptation should be quite similar if not the same for both of them...

The one can find many valid(?) reasons cancelling MeeGo but not HW issues...

cycnus

@john pamlore

You have a WRONG FACT!!!!!

TI was in a good health. Nokia as the biggest smartphone manufacture use lots of TI chips.

The collapse of TI because elop suddenly change the cost of Nokia. WP only use Qualcomm chip.

przemo_li

@John Phamlore

Considering that Meer community was able to run MeeGo on Nexus hardware, I can hardly see why it would be problem to company with Nokia resources.

We talk Top500...

And till recent events Nokia was only accused for bad management, not lack of resources...

http://gizmodo.com/5648730/meego-looks-pretty-great-on-everyone-elses-phones


(After all that's why everybody is crazy about Linux in smartphone space. It allow You to run your software on anything)

Cyan

@Tomi The projection of Nokia sales you provide looks a bit too pessimistic to me.

In fact, one of the key reason you underlined for low Lumia sales last year was its insanely High sale price. But today, with "low cost" versions such as the Lumia 520 on sales, I expect the number of Smartphone sold to pick up.

Sure, selling low-cost smartphone doesn't really help margins, but well, as long as the ranking is scored only on the number of smartphone sold, this is going to help Nokia. A lot.

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Spawn

@Cyan

In the past years Nokia had the time-advantage. Now there is plenty new competition coming or already in the market they not had before.

Take that into account and expect competition to eat some of the small market share left for Nokia while they failed to get traction with WP8.

For the Lumia 520: still more expensive then Huawei WP8 devices which just came to market. A prime example of new competition Nokia not had before mixed with Microsoft strategy-changes caused by Nokia's failure. With Huawei an asian tiger took over some of the exclusivity Nokia had with Microsoft. Huawei is the preferred Africa-partner of Microsoft, not Nokia, for example. Expect the same for there home, asia and greater china region.

And then there is the wide range of carrier-support for low-end firefoxos, Tizen, Blackberry 10, Sailfish abd Ubuntu Phone.

Nokia enjoyed past years exclusivity and very less competition. That changed. I wouldn't expect them to perform better then before under that more difficult conditions.

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