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January 28, 2013



@E Star
Scenario 3 -> you are using the N9 :)

Sorry to report that sports tracker is not working on the 808 PureView due to compatibility issues with latest FP :( so had to load endomondo on the GF's 808 works just as well. Thank god for Zombie OS's


@Cristian Radu

Another reason phones need multitasking:
You use Skype and you want people to be able to call you without having the Skype application as the single running task (taking up your full screen). Yes, that's right, on Windows Phone 7.x, Skype was hopelessly crippled.

Also, if multitasking is not important, please explain why Windows Phone 8 supports it?

As for the Playbook: that product was compromised in other ways -- it required a BB phone in order to download and read email, which seriously limited its available market.

As for using open source: the advantages are the same as on other computers: lower cost of acquisition, the opportunity to customize it, faster development cycles (from the collaboration that open source encourages).

Think of a Nokia phone running Android, but with Nokia mapping and a real Pureview camera, instead of paying Microsoft $40 per handset for access to an operating system that represents, not the "third ecosystem", but instead the "fifth ecosystem" (or perhaps the sixth).

The "third ecosystem" claim is one that reporters have parroted for most of 2012, but it is fiction.


The other nice thing about that open source OS is that it is pretty stable, in contrast to almost everything Microsoft produces. That fact alone got Microsoft locked out from HPC and other environments where reliability is a concern. My N9 never crashed, but I hear that Windows Phones crash a lot...



>> There is no indication that any non-iOS, non-Android ecosystem can get more than abt 3-4% share from consumers.

The decisions were made 2 years ago, when the picture was quite different. Back then Symbian still had roughly 30% market share so a direct replacement would have had a good chance. Now it's too late, of course.


@Cristian Radu

> Linux by itself is not a success, so lets not use that name, even if Android/iOS have a UNIX core

That UNIX core of Android is called Linux.


@Cristian Radu

> Linux by itself is not a success, so lets not use that name, even if Android/iOS have a UNIX core

You seem to have missed that the Linux kernel (ie, Linux) dominates every computing application from the Super-Computer top 500 down to WiFi routers and television, and obviously, phones. The only exception is desktop and laptop computing.


I agree that Linux is likely the most successful operating system today. But that it dominates everywhere except desktop and laptop is not correct.

Outside the desktop Windows has significant marketshare in Workgroup/SOHO/Web servers (though rapidly declining), PoS terminals and gaming consoles.

Other proprietary operating systems still have high marketshare in high-priced routers and embedded industry applications. Even in a $20 wifi router you will not always see Linux, but also RTOS like VxWorks.

Mr Eric Wu

@Jilles van Gurp

So I've probably missed the boat on a timely reply, but I couldn't not comment (especially it being 2 years to the day since the BPM). In Nokia we (me and you) often had chats in the Nokia 2.0 list about Symbian. You with your "it's a pig in lipstick" view and me with my pragmatic "it pays 50% of the revenue" view. At the time I said that if you want Symbian dead (and that was clear from your writings) you better decide which one of you or the person next to you will leave.

Now you suggest Elop killed it too soon, yet you wanted it dead much earlier.

Regarding the 150m number, that was (given a run rate of 26m/quarter) 1.5 years. He may have said the number but he meant the timeline. I think most people worked that out at the time. So you might say he over estimated, but I'd say he executed the execution to plan. I was out the door 1 year, 5 months and 20 days later.

And maybe to the outsiders, this serves to demonstrate what it was like in Nokia. Team after team suggesting that other teams should be canned. E.g. infighting.

Mr Eric Wu.

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