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July 18, 2012



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I think the problem is nokia releases the numbers in "sort of" way. So if they say more than three millions, is it 3.1 or 3.2?


And, are the Free/promotional phones included in the sales?

I bet they will say "We sold a lot of Lumia, less than expected, but still a lot more than HTC and Samsung". Is it correct, or do you really need precise figures Nokia won't ever give ?


Another contest you can organize :

When will Nokia share reach the 1 Euro line?

I think tomorrow it will be close, but not 1 Euro yet... maybe in one or two months


If we are to believe this graph here:

There still are 3 times more Nokia Symbian devices than Nokia Lumia devices in the US (0.9% vs 0.3%). Keeping in mind that Symbian has been around for much longer this is not so shocking. The kicker here is that after the most expensive marketing campaign in mobile phone history and giving away phones for free, the Lumia line (in the market for over a quarter) has gained...0.3% market share. They aren't even the biggest WP7 device provider - Samsung is.

Having in mind they sacrificed their entire existing and thriving market (screwing many Symbian devs in the process and killing off a huge ecosystem) this is beyond horrid.

So, I'd say, around 3mln devices, and I think that's even too optimistic.


So, the number is: 4 million...


Is the 4 million sold a cumulative figure for Q1 and Q2 or just for Q2?


Just Q2。。。


finally not so bad but it's still bad.


What's interesting is how much they earned with that.

Maybe they sold (or gave for free) 4M Lumias, but overall, they sold less smart devices than in Q1 (and of course than Q2 2011).

Anyway, this time Elop was good at communicating, as he managed to present catastrophic results as "not that bad", mainly thanks to NSN (he once wanted to get rid of) and few "industrial-prostitution" (selling assets to MS for ridiculous prices)


@vladkr: Hah, the good, old NSN... :-)

Many friends here frequently claims it worth nothing and (finally) it is able to contribute to the top line...
On the other hand there are lots of thing to be improved there a9as well) before we can be happy. But step-by-step it gets better...

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