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June 14, 2012


The Bit In The Middle

Moi Tommi,

I know some ex-Nokians went to Ixonos ( who are in Helsinki, Jyväskylä, Kemi, Oulu, Tampere, Turku and outside Finland too).

As someone who is leaving another part of Nokia, I know what its like to be told "bye, bye". I wish good luck to all those people. You have amazing skills and some great history from a once great company. Any company would be lucky to have your knowledge and professional ethic.

Be proud of the work you have done.

Onwards and upwards!



Nokia press release "Nokia sharpens strategy and provides updates to its targets and outlook" is world record bullshit.

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Ca cineva care este de a lăsa o altă parte a Nokia, ştiu ceea ce se vrea a fi spus "Bye, bye". Doresc succes tuturor acestor oameni. Aveţi abilităţi uimitoare si o istorie mare de la o companie mare o dată. Orice companie ar fi norocos să aibă cunoştinţele şi etica profesională.


I'm curious, how does Nokia's board of directors take decisions ?

Do they not question at all even one decision by a boss-guy (Elop) with zero background in Manufacturing or Telecom or mobile ?

Do they not ask even once about Nokia's interests as different from Microsoft's interests ?

Dont they know that in Asia, made in Finland/Germany/Western-countries is seen as good quality ?

Personally I always liked the "Made in Finland" Nokia more than "Made in China" Apple or Nokia.

Sure... maybe I will get blocked for posting this... but for my own knowledge-- I would love to learn better how these systems work.

Thank you and awaiting this information from readers and Tomi...


Also, dont they have a independant board of directors ???

Has not one director spoken a word OR resigned in protest???

If it was in any other country, any government would conduct a enquiry into honesty/corruption about a allegation by even 1 of the 10,000 fired who alleges wrongful termination.

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Thank you all for the comments

Tomi Ahonen :-)


As an insider, I no longer have faith in the company. We had a project that could have dominated a complete market sector. Nothing else was there to compete with it. Even after the burning platform fiasco, we still had a plan, and a clear direction. With this latest decision, Nokia has been relegated to a hardware company. Today is a very very sad day for those inside and outside Nokia.


Could you please explain some things that might help other companies who'd like to find these talented people and put them to work, maybe a follow up post?

Are these people almost all located in Finland? If not what other cities are they in?

What are typical pay ranges and benefits that are appropriate for these kinds of skilled engineers?

Does the Finnish public safety net provide enough unemployment assistance so that these engineers do not have to rush for the very first job they find, just to be able to afford food next week? In other words do they have time to make a plan for a good transition?

Are ex-Nokia engineers likely to be familiar with telecommuting, virtual team, international offshoring type of work situations already? Or would these be new types of job skills to them? How hard would it be for someone who worked onsite in Finland for decades to switch to this kind of working arrangement?

How hard is it for a group of former Nokia engineers and managers to create a technology consulting firm that could make deals with other companies around the world?

How hard is it for other companies to set up a Finnish subsidiary or branch for R&D?

Would most of these engineers have very specialized experience in digital RF, or would they have more transferable skills in digital systems, circuit boards, software, UI etc that could be used in other industries?

Tomi T Ahonen

To all in this thread

I just got a most wonderful Tweet on Twitter from Todd Smith over at Cisco. He said that Cisco Mobile is very interested in any Nokians, you have the skills they want. Its one place that has immediately stepped up and said they are interested in you. And I can say from working with Cisco in the past, their culture is also similar to what we had at Nokia. Please do follow up with the Cisco Mobile recruiting website or contact them for example via Twitter at @CiscoJobsEMEAR

Thank you Cisco! Any other companies, if you would like to mention to these talented clever hard-working Finns that you'd be interested, please feel free to post here in the thread, or send me email, or contact me via Twitter at @tomiahonen and I will help them find you

Tomi Ahonen :-)


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Engineers in Finland are located in Helsinki, Salo, Tampere and Oulu.

Some data about monthly pay ranges for Engineers with Masters degree in Finland can be found at:

Unemployment assistance for these engineers lasts for two years and is roughly 50-75% of the salary.

Virtual teams distributed globally is not a new environment for them.

Information on setting up a Finnish subsidiary for R&D

I doubt there's that much digital RF experience available, but rather systems, software and manufacturing experience which could very well fit other industries. Especially involving miniature or portable embedded electronics.


My collection of Nokia's is increasing in value.


I think that all nokia ex-employee should speak up in web.

I know that Nokia & Microsoft now busy going from one web site to another to say "WP is good, WP is the future"

I believe nokia ex-employee should go to one web site to another and write a rebuttal. tell the world that Elop is a liar, a criminal. WP is a failure, and how failure it was and will be. Let's kick elop in the ball.

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