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January 19, 2012

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zlutor

yesss, N9 numbers... I'm really curious whether Nokia will be dare enough to share it. ;-)

Tomi, do you see any chance for N9/N950 will get support again inside Nokia (because of 'good' sales figures)? What numbers would be 'non-ignorable'?

Or 'alea iacta est'? :-(

Niilo

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248126/best_phone_at_ces_nokias_lumia_900_with_windows_phone_7.html

Yep. Lukewarm reviews.

karlim

While I can easily track how you did get your most of your smartphone numbers, I'm a bit lost with your Sony Ericsson number.

In your Q3 results post you say that SE shipped 7.6M smartphones. While Sony Ericsson themselves do not really that number - they do report total number of Xperia smartphones shipped every quarter for number of quarters now. And it's been:

16 million in Q2: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/press/pressreleases/pressreleasedetails/q2financialpressrelease2011-20110715

22 million in Q3: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/press/pressreleases/pressreleasedetails/q3financialpressrelease2011-20111014

28 million in Q4: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/press/pressreleases/pressreleasedetails/q4andfullyearfinancialpressrelease2011-20120119

So it's been 6 million SE Xperias in Q3 and now in Q4. And unless you think that Sony Ericsson is still selling respectable numbers of Vivaz/Vivaz Pro (Symbian) phones, or a Live Walkmans (the only SE non-Xperia Android smartphone), and exclude Xperia X1 (Windows Mobile - but still Xperia) - your Q3 estimate of 7.6 million smartphones for SE looks way too high.

And - if your 5.9M LG number for Q3 is correct - it must be much closer to Sony Ericsson in smartphone shipments then you expect. And may have easily passed them in Q4

kevin

I think the SE press release said "approximately 80%" of sales are smartphones. SE said it sold 9m phones, so that results in about 7.2m smartphones, possibly less, as if it was over 80%, they would've used the word "over" instead of "approximately".

karlim

@baron95

#1 "Sales" in press release mean Dollar or Euro amount - not the unit number, unless they say otherwise.

#2 Smartphones are usually more expensive then feature phones. So that 3 million difference in unit numbers (9 million total 6 million Xperias, the only hard numbers SE reported) discrepancy to 80% sales number, most likely only show price difference between SE feature vs smartphone ASP

Unless you can explain where except Xperia line those at least 1.2M SE smartphones came from

And - while I agree with a lot what you say here. Your last comment was way wrong:

MSFT is on tear - maybe. With Xbox, Kinect, Windows 7, etc; Not Windows Phone, as it pertains to mobile, which is discussed here. They didn't even dare to mention the number of WPs activated or licenses sold. They do know them, but most likely, numbers are pretty bad even compared to a low bar of last year's Q4 WP sales (2 or 2.5M) - so they decided not to disclose them.

Intel and mobile. What do they have to do with it? Except empty promises for years and years to join the fun.

Google - nothing in their Q4 report indicated that it was Android or mobile that was at fault for their disappointment.

You may be correct in your stock positions - we'll see depending on how long you hold them. But as far as it relates to mobile, except for iPhone - they have very little to do with mobile.

karlim

Sorry - SE part was @Kevin. Somehow thought it was @Baron95. After the SE - well, that was for @baron :)

Steve

Very bad news for Nokia:

"Nokia's upcoming Windows Phone handset, the Lumia 710, has been deemed too expensive by UK networks...
...sales of the Lumia 800 allegedly failed to meet network expectations, leaving carriers sceptical over just how popular the new model will be."

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/23/networks_nag_nokia_to_lower_lumia_levy/

KPOM

Apple sold 37 million iPhones last quarter. They may reclaim #1 for the quarter past.

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Given how much money they received from Microsoft and the fact that the CEO is ex-Microsoft, no wonder management loves to hate MeeGo and loves Windows Phone. Tsk, tsk.

Peter

Jae ,

It is criminal behavior to dump winning product and embrace/contribute to a failed WP7.5.

The lost of profit for not selling meego n9 (by restricting it to a few markets, labeling it as last no support product, DOA) is 10 times more than microsoft illegal money.

Sue Elop and the board chairman is the only way for nokia shareholders get their nokia back.

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