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October 06, 2011

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Peter

Steve Jobs life demos the theory of Buddism. It is the Karma that connects every one together. iMac, iPod,iPhone,iPad,iCloud are just a few of tools that carry Karma smoothly among the souls of people in the village of Earth. He is born as a Buddist and return as a Buddist. He will come back and teach us with his Buddism and Karma.
Glorious and Peace to Budda.

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Hi Lee

Hey, GREAT point! Yes, so true! He was ridiculed quite regularly on all of his new ventures (and some of my early blogs about the orig iPhone had elements of that too, haha, although I believe I always said, don't bet against Apple it has a history of changing industries haha). That is a missing piece to the blog and funny, it is also something I admire greatly in true leaders - part of why I admire IK Brunel - he faced the same out of all of the 'industry greats' of the industries he disrupted 150 years before Jobs haha.. Like the guy who had built the world's biggest bridge, said Brunel's proposed bridge (even bigger) was not sustainable and would collapse. Or the ship builders who said it was not possible to build a ship that could cross the ocean under its own power (Brunel proved them wrong) etc.. Very true, that is what has also plagued Jobs all through his career until perhaps the second half of this past decade, he was finally being given the benefit of the doubt, by at least some neutral observers..

Thanks Lee.

Tomi :-)

billinboston

You make a compelling argument. But I think two other American businessmen exceeded even Jobs: Thomas Edison and Cornelius Vanderbilt. Electricity and transportation were more life changing than even the internet. I blog in more detail here: http://billbulkeley.blogspot.com/2011/10/jobs-place-in-business-history-no-3.html

Jonathan

"Then Apple went from making profits when Jobs was onboard, to making losses and arriving to the brink of bankruptcy when he was away"

Apple was in trouble when Jobs was at the company, before his departure. The problems were partly caused by Jobs projects: Lisa had failed, Mac was not selling nearly as much as Apple needed. Ousting Jobs and being able to do the right things for the bottom line probably saved the company.

It is true that during the 12 years without Jobs Apple ended up in a bad position, which Jobs later turned around. But the cause and effect is far from being as clear as you imply. One must remember Jobs learned a thing or two about how to run a business, when NeXT was constantly in financial trouble and saw almost no sales.

HCE

@Jonathan

You say

"Apple was in trouble when Jobs was at the company, before his departure."

Actually that's not quite correct. It is true that Apple was, financially speaking, up and down during those years and the Mac didn't become a big hit until some years after it was introduced - but the company was quite profitable during those years. In fact their first loss-making year was 1993. In fact, until around 1990 their profits were on a par with those of Microsoft and their revenues significantly higher. The big decline started in the early 1990s - and you can hardly blame Steve Jobs for that.

- HCE

Jukka

Very good post! Steve and Woz are rightfully quoted as the founders of Applebut there was also a third man - Mike Markkula. Mike was not only the money man, but also an engineer contributing alittle to the technical side and being older than Steve and Woz, he was also a mentor. Mike was even Apple CEO for a while during those turbulent early years.

Jonathan

@Jukka

Mike Markkula was not the third founder, but Ronald Wayne. Mike Markkula was an early investor, advisor and CEO.

@HCE

Apple was in trouble because of Lisa failure and really slow start of the Mac. Jobs wanted to concentrate just on the Mac, he and Sculley fought and Jobs left. Sculley won and 8-bit "past" was still making money for apple for the next 5 years or so.

HCE


@Jonathan

Agreed Lisa was a flop and the Mac did not initially sell that well - which is why I described Apple's financials in those days as "up and down". However, I don't believe they ever were in any serious trouble. Mac sales took a little while to pick up but with the advent of more powerful machines and new software (particularly in the desktop publishing space), they were soon doing fine.

The real trouble started when Apple (without Steve Jobs' leadership) could not figure out how to develop and improve the Mac and had no clue as to what the next big thing was going to be for the company. That's the point I was trying to make - the trouble that Apple was in when the Mac launched was nothing like the far worse trouble they were in 7-8 years later. You really cannot compare the two.

- HCE

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