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April 29, 2010

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peter cowan

interesting take. i'm certainly glad WebOS isn't going anywhere, it is really nice to use.

i am surprised to see you going with the trade press conventional wisdom that the google/verizon nexus one deal was a "google's stumble". google lost nothing, verizon is releasing the HTC Incredible--another android phone--in a few months, that will probably sell millions through verizon stores. i am guessing that google is the one that walked away from the deal because verizon wanted to cripple the device, and google didn't want their branding on it.

in that light, it would look like a huge mistake by verizon--wasting all that time, and energy trying to build vendor lock-in into an open device, when there are a dozen alternatives out there. think about that: adding proprietary features to an open system is actually, in the long run a losing strategy--every second you spend on that software you risk a competitor coming to market with a better device sooner, and you make it more difficult to keep your devices up to date with the latest firmware. more evidence to back this up; if you hadn't noticed, google is beginning to decouple their apps from the vendors firmware distribution so they can be updated independently.

two years from now when a nexus one style phone is selling unlocked, without a contract, for $100, things are going to look quite different.

Guillaume Beaumont

The smartphone market is interesting because it's a proxy for the real war: which paradigm and whose ecosystem will dominate for the next 20 years of computing. The previous IBM&Clones/Microsoft model has been crumbling for about a while now, and Microsoft has been too slow to leverage their market dominance to get a foothold in the newer marketplace and they now have to play catch up.

And now, HP has just declared war on them. While their relationship is going to remain polite, and their current business relations will have to be maintained (they need one another WAY too much to break those for at least 5 years), they're entering a market, by themselves, in which there is only going to be one winner; one dominant ecosystem.

The current state of the computing market is unsustainable; it's becoming quite clear that computers right now are not what people want them to be. We all dream of a future that looks like its out of a sci-fi movie. This can only be achieved with one dominant ecosystem.

But I fail to see a vertical integration strategy from Nokia, RIM and Samsung. They're certainly contenders in the smartphone space, but this is a winner-takes-all fight, and they have little to offer other than smartphones. They would need a strong partner, one that is not already invested in the smartphone market. There aren't a lot of those left. Nokia MIGHT have Intel at best.

netborn

The funny thing here is that Palm has in his hands a solid OS, a non so solid hardware and a really weak go to market model.

HP (talking about smartphones) has no OS, a very weak hardware and also a weak go to market model (again, talking about smartphones). So at the end of the day what HP will need to ensure is their go to market model for the smartphones product line.

Last year when HP bought EDS it costs between 5 to 8% to hp employees (salary reduction globally), let´s see how will cost to them this year.

Alex Birkhead

Hi Tomi,

As usual, reckon you've read this well. My biggest questions are whether HP can actually pull this off (it could take major support) and how Microsoft fits in.

More pros: HP is a huge player in both enterprise/IS (a major MS shop, too) and telco (much stronger than Palm outside of the US -- so NOK possibly not quite as safe as you suggest), can do consumer tech (computers, printers), and has Compaq's PDA/iPAQ heritage (done hero-to-zero and enterprise handhelds before).

Totally agree that HP seems to have picked Palm up on the cheap, which suggests Dell and Lenovo may have been silly at least not to have bid the price up, and you're right that it is probably not too late to play trumps. I also hope LG, Moto, Nokia, RIM, Samsung, SE, and others don't regret letting the only OS wildcard go begging -- you've summed-up the upside really well (i.e. what could be done with WebOS given more support, time, and scale).

Ahem: Apple's 'surprising' stronger and RIM's relatively weak recent quarterly sales performances were very much in line with my expectations that you didn't take too seriously earlier this year! ;-) Can't see Apple much better than flat-lining this quarter (and could be a drop), though, which would hurt the trend, then the big question of what uplift a new model delivers. LG's sudden weakness did surprise me, but, in retrospect, perhaps to be expected due to being under-strength in smartphones and with SE seemingly steaming back (could be wrong about SE). I feel you may be giving RIM far too much credit for what in reality was a fairly flat performance (and very weak for a Q4), and dismiss competition with the iPhone too readily. I know you don't hate Apple and are no apologist for Nokia [wink], but when you do comparisons with 'NOK as King', you could give the Cupertino gangsters a bit more credit for being possible/probable top-dog in smartphone revenue and profit -- key metrics for businesses...by the way, I liked your analysis of smartphones as part of the wider computing market, and was surprised how high Apple ranked (puts the iPhone/iPad/Touch play in much better strategic perspective, perhaps).

I reckon Apple has at least another good 6-12 months (you were suggesting it was already nosediving...), based on iPhone 4 expectations, i.e. until Android gets its act together. Still reckon I'm right about iPhone and Android cracking enterprises faster than you expect, too -- basically, a new category allied to agile/cloud computing is tearing up the old rules. You're right that introducing a QWERTY iPhone would be smart (and probably a much bigger mid-term winner than than the iPad, imo), especially to take on BlackBerry and Eseries properly, but they still don't appear to be listening to the market.

This all places RIM on the edge of a precipice, imo (12m rolling volume growth very low, by historic measures); so they better do serious OS magic soon...and I still detect no signs, just totally-insufficient incremental updates (ironically, they risk an iPAQ-type oblivion). Nokia continues to tease -- will it or won't it work with Symbian for the mass market and MeeGo for the top-end -- I simply can't read the runes, so continue to believe they would be very wise to have a Plan C, like dabbling with Android (which gives added benefit of offsetting that dangerous insularity). Not yet convinced by Samsung's Bada, but they can do a good 'steamroller' trick. LG could be in a bad place, if the shine has come off its premium featurephones before it has built smartphone momentum. SE looks like it could be on the comeback trail (almost feels like LG is repeating SE's mistakes of old). Think we agree that Android is developing into a mighty dangerous ecosystem, but I reckon it needs time to really bed down (as Google corrects early missteps like fragmentation, excessive geekiness, and alienating key OEM and cellco players by being over-assertive), then looking kind of scary for everyone else.

If I understand him correctly, I totally disagree with Guillaume about there *having* to be one dominant ecosystem -- over the last decade and continuing, 'mobility', internet, open-source, UNIX/Linux, 'cloud', etc. have changed many of the rules. Terminals are becoming just commoditised platforms for browsers and web-/virtualised-apps (whether Apple and RIM like it or not), i.e., form-factor aside, fairly soon a Mac, PC, smartphone, tablet, set-top box, appliance, iWotsit, gaming console, or name-your-poison will be interchangeable for the general, mass market user. Excepting brand-loyalty and inertia, people are no longer glued to computing hardware or OSs the way they used to be, and remaining stickiness is continuing to weaken, meaning it is easier than ever to chop and change. This is also why I consider it unusually open-game in the enterprise for iPhone and Android (and, potentially, MeeGo, WebOS, etc.). Granted, we *could* end up with one dominant ecosystem, but I do hope not, partly because it's more interesting this way! Of course, things will ultimately settle down, as they did previously with many great innovations and technology breakthroughs of the past, but I think we have at least another 5-10 years before things get dull.

My tuppence-worth, anyhow -- thoroughly enjoying your posts and I'd hate it if I entirely agreed and wasn't obliged to think.

Guillaume Beaumont

Alex; I agree that it'll take 5 to 10 years before we have a clear winner, but I still consider that in the end, someone will have to win that war.

Basically, what I mean goes beyond the operating system choice and more into the computing paradigm.

The scenario you're describing as where we're going is Google's vision; few devices that are basically dumb terminals to cloud-based services. It's obviously not in, for instance, HP's interest to let that happen. They would rather have us buy better, stronger, faster computers or devices. So when they release a new smartphone, you can bet they'll put the emphasis on what the machine can do by itself. And in Microsoft and especially Apple's case, their vision is really one of a closed ecosystem. Microsoft has made some steps towards cloud computing, mainly because they don't want to give Google free reign, but very few bold moves that show commitment towards that path.

Tomas - University Place, WA

OK, I'm a Palm Pre user. Have been since it was introduced by Sprint. It was finally the smartphone that convinced me it might be worthwhile to give it a go.

Excellent operating system (WebOS), very good user interface, few real software bugs, very natural, smooth operation.

Hardware? Well, the Pre is nice looking, has a nice feel, is tiny for those who must have that, but it is also delicate. A fragile little jewel.

I'm looking forward to HP being able to fund continued development of WebOS, and hopefully be able to fund a few more rugged smartphones that use it.

I wish Palm and HP well!

Matthew Artero

You wrote it might take a year or two for Palm to be prifitable. They could be profitable by their very next product if it includes my user interface. My points are at my website appleiphonekiller.com

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Definitely agree with what you stated. Your explanation was certainly the easiest to understand. I tell you, I usually get irked when folks discuss issues that they plainly do not know about. You managed to hit the nail right on the head and explained out everything without complication. Maybe, people can take a signal. Will likely be back to get more. Thanks.

Zohar Stolar

Thanks for that great article!

One BIG comment is about RIM's success: "RIM success stories keep coming from strange markets. ..." - Calling non-U.S. markets "strange" is:
a) not so politically correct (but who cares for that, right :-) ?
b) obscuring actual real data - these markets are growing fast enough and become more important with each year. Don't ignore them, or they'll take over you before you know it.

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I definitely your explanation was certainly easiest understand ..i am surprised to see you going with the trade press conventional wisdom that the google.
Thanks for sharing !!!!!!!

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by removing overlap in units that become redundant) or by generating new revenues - to turn the Palm unit profitable. It won't happen overnight, might take a year or two. And it will bring its share of pain to Palm staff, but they knew it going in, that they were facing cuts no matter who would end up buying them. HP may well be th

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The smartphone market is interesting because it's a proxy for the real war: which paradigm and whose ecosystem will dominate for the next 20 years of computing. The previous IBM&Clones/Microsoft model has been crumbling for about a while now, and Microsoft has been too slow to leverage their market dominance to get a foothold in the newer marketplace and they now have to play catch up.

And now, HP has just declared war on them. While their relationship is going to remain polite, and their current business relations will have to be maintained (they need one another WAY too much to break those for at least 5 years), they're entering a market, by themselves, in which there is only going to be one winner; one dominant ecosystem.

The current state of the computing market is unsustainable; it's becoming quite clear that computers right now are not what people want them to be. We all dream of a future that looks like its out of a sci-fi movie. This can only be achieved with one dominant ecosystem.

But I fail to see a vertical integration strategy from Nokia, RIM and Samsung. They're certainly contenders in the smartphone space, but this is a winner-takes-all fight, and they have little to offer other than smartphones. They would need a strong partner, one that is not already invested in the smartphone market. There aren't a lot of those left. Nokia MIGHT have Intel at best.

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