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October 13, 2017

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Tester

@Jim Glue;

"Now, with the LATEST Android, there is abstraction of the hardware layer such that FUTURE Android updates should be a lot easier for EVERYBODY."

That has indeed been the fundamental issue with Android updates. I think now it depends how deep the changes made by the various players go. Ideally the core operating system should never be touched to make it work on a given device so we'll see who's doing it the wrong way.

Long term Android will have to find a way to remove the manufacturers and telcos from the equation because those have always been the one keeping it behind.

Huber

@Tester: With project Treble, in there is a HAL between the Kernel and the OS and between the OS and the vendor add-ons.

So in theory it should be possible to at least compile AOSP and let it run on the OEM's Kernel and the HAL. I'm quite sure the vendors will tend to screw up the compatibility of their add-ons, so I doubt that one will be able to update the AOSP-part of a Samsung or LG device :-)

Also stuff like camera features etc. will be interesting. I doubt that installing AOSP will be as easy as installing Windows or Linux Mint on a PC...

Tomi T Ahonen

First off,

To all readers who submitted data on their domestic market and visibility of Nokia HMD Android devices and local carriers and local advertising.. gosh, THANK YOU !!!!!

I am sending Twitter followers to come read the COMMENTS section to read your comments. I will post highlights of all local markets that you discussed. I cannot tell you how pleased I am personally for this 'research' that you guys volunteered for our readers - I could not possibly have done that by myself. And as you all know, there IS NO SUCH DATA (yet) by any ANALYST house.. so this is truly ground-breaking research for our industry. THANK YOU.

And anyone else, who has local data on their home market on how HMD Nokia Android smartphones (or the dumbphones like 3310) are being marketed, advertised, sold; and the retail outlets and carrier support - please do post it here. Our readers are truly eager to find out.

Thank you so much!

Tomi Ahonen :-)

Tomi T Ahonen

So thank you so much to

John A (India, Indonesia, Turkey, Sweden)

Mike (Poland)

Winter (Netherlands)

Luis Calvo (Spain)

I love you guys!!! I already quoted from each of you to my Twitter followers and mentioned you by name of course...

Anyone else, if you see Nokia/Android/HMD or even featurephone Nokia ads by carriers/operators or local handset store chains, please post a comment here for our readers to find it. This is VERY valuable crowd-sourced research that nobody else yet has

Tomi Ahonen :-)

Abdul Muis

Hi Tomi,

Indonesia...
Erafone - The biggest offline & online mobile phone store. It has hundreds of store throughout Indonesia.

https://erafone.com/brand/n-z/nokia?___SID=U
https://erafone.com/outlet-promo/nokia-3-now-available
Nokia 3 & Nokia 3310

https://erafone.com/outlet-promo/nokia-n3-dan-n6-launching-indosat
Nokia 6 (coming soon)

Abdul Muis


VirnetX Receives Court's Final Judgment Affirming Jury's Verdict of $1.20 Per Infringing Apple Device
$439.7 Million Final Judgement Includes Jury Verdict, Willful Infringement, Interest and Attorney Fees

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/virnetx-receives-courts-final-judgment-affirming-jurys-verdict-of-120-per-infringing-apple-device-300536936.html

ZEPHYR COVE, Nev., Oct. 16, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- VirnetX™ Holding Corporation (NYSE AMERICAN: VHC), an Internet security software and technology company, announced today that on September 29, 2017, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, Tyler Division, entered a Final Judgement and issued its Memorandum Opinion and Order ("Order") regarding post-trial motions resulting from the prior $302.4 million jury verdict ("Verdict") for VirnetX in the ongoing patent infringement action between VirnetX Inc. ("VirnetX") and Apple Inc ("Apple").

In the Order, the Court denied all of Apple's motions: motion for judgment as a matter of law of non-infringement, motion for judgment as a matter of law on damages, motion for a new trial on infringement, and motion for a new trial on damages. The Court granted all VirnetX's motions; motion for willful infringement and enhanced the royalty rate during the willfulness period by 50 percent, from $1.20 to $1.80, awarding VirnetX enhanced damages in the amount of $41,271,364.80 against Apple thereby, granting VirnetX a total sum of $343,699,314.80 in pre-interest damages. The Court also awarded costs, certain attorneys' fees, and prejudgment interest to VirnetX, and directed the parties to meet and confer regarding these amounts. On October 13, 2017, having met and conferred and having reached agreements on all amounts, parties jointly filed a motion asking the Court to grant VirnetX an additional sum in the amount of $96,028,103.58 in agreed Bill of Costs, Attorneys' Fees, and Prejudgment Interest. The Final Judgement is only subject to appeal stemming from new issues unresolved in the Apple I case, remanded back from the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. The total Final Judgement amount including Jury Verdict, Willful Infringement, Interest, Costs and Attorney Fees is $439,727,418.

"We are elated with the Court's Final Judgement of $439 million in that not only did it affirm the jury's verdict of $1.20 per infringing iPhone, iPad and Mac Product, but also added for willful infringement, interest and attorney fees. This is the third time a jury has ruled in our favor against Apple," said Kendall Larsen, VirnetX CEO and President. "This Final Judgement amount is large because sales of Apple's infringing products are large. The cost of our security technology in infringing devices has been apportioned and is less than a quarter of one percent of the device's cost. We believe this established per device rate for security is very reasonable and will greatly assist us with our domestic and global licensing efforts."

Abdul Muis

https://nokiapoweruser.com/hmd-teases-high-end-nokia-phone-launch-china-october-19/
HMD teases high-end Nokia Phone launch in China on October 19

Abdul Muis

The iPhone 7 is reportedly outselling the iPhone 8
https://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-7-outselling-iphone-8-report/



iPhone 8? Big deal. More people are buying last year's iPhone 7 than the newly released 8, reports Reuters citing analysis from KeyBanc Capital Markets and carrier surveys conducted in the US and UK.

This bucks the usual trend of new iPhones being super popular -- with select models often selling out -- in the weeks after their release. The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus have been on shelves since Sept. 22, but initial response on the phone's release day seemed a lot more tame than previous years. This adds to the talk that many people are holding out for the iPhone X, which releases Nov. 3. According to the analysts cited by Reuters, this may be the case.

Jim Glue

Hi Abdul,

The iPhone 7 is apparently outselling the iPhone 8...but so is the iPhone 8+ as the early adopter crowd eagerly await their chance to buy the iPhone X.

All healthy news for Apple. You know what isn't outselling the iPhone 7? No other phone in the world. The iPhone 7 is the number 1 selling phone in the world.

I know...terrible news for Apple that the iPhone 7 gained share everywhere but the UK leading up to the launch of the new iPhones (as of August). Gained share. The iPhone during the worst time of the year for the iPhone. Everywhere.

Doom doom doom

Abdul Muis

https://stocknews.com/news/aapl-consumer-reports-isnt-thrilled-with-the-apple-inc-aapl-iphone/

Consumer Reports ranked the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8 Plus as the top two devices when it comes to performance. The iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone 8 were ranked fourth and fifth, respectively, with Samsung’s 2016 Galaxy S7 sitting in the third position. That’s right, Consumer Reports thinks the 18-month-old Galaxy S7 is a better phone than either new iPhone 8 model.

Jim Glue

lol! You have to read past the headlines. So, if you follow the story you linked to, to the BGR story, then to the Yonhap story you will find things like:

- CR's bad review of the iPhone 8/8+ is an outlier as most reviews have been very positive
- BGR says THEY think the iPhone 8/8+ are the best phones in the world right now
- Consumer reports "performance" is talking about things like weight and durability (two reasons cited for why Samsung's newest flagship, the Note 8, was rated EVEN LOWER)

So do you think Samsung's Note 8 is even worse than Samsung's Galaxy S7? We won't mention the Note 7 and it's exploding issues.

Tomi T Ahonen

Hi Abdul

THANKS !!! Gr8 info about world's fourth largest country by population that is far too rarely seen... very good, thanks!

Tomi Ahonen :-)

Tomi T Ahonen

Hi everybody

I did an update to the blog post (on the bottom, clearly marked) that now includes a preliminary sampling of the early countries where advertising for Nokia HMD Android devices is known to have started. We have 10 countries already and counting... thanks to all who gave info and please others, send it in if you have it :-)

I truly truly appreciate the help and there are many who will love to find that info here on the blog!

Tomi Ahonen :-)

Jim Glue

Tomi,

You can add the US to your list. Nokia and Amazon have teamed up and sell the Nokia 6 to prime customers "with offers" at a $50 discount ($179). They've done so since launch

zlutor

@Tomi: it seems my previous post with links has gone to digital wallhalla, so summary again: all the three meani gful operators (Telenor, T-Mobile and Vodafone) offers Nokia smartphones to their regular/business customers here in Hungary.

Not to mention miriads of retail (web)shops/chains that offer you basically any model, Nokia8 included...

Of course, I can select some of them as company phone, too - but that is obvious for many reasons... ;)

zlutor

@Tomi: since 3310 return was that bug-media-boom, HMD should drop another of when they are ready to produce in masses: an ad with Arnold Schwarzenegger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPzN916D8D0

That would be a killer - or even a terminator? :D

Nokipoika

@Tomi
HMD announced last night Nokia 7 - a model between 6 and 8 - and they did so in China.

Joe Fish

Hi Tomi,
All major carriers in Switzerland offer Nokia smartphones. Nokia appears in the "brand list" of every carrier's online shop (among the usual suspects Apple, Samsung, Huawei and Sony).

Tomi T Ahonen

Hi zlutor, Joe Fish and Jim Glue

zlutor & Joe: Thank You!!! I Tweeted your news and will add to the list in the update part in the blog.

PS Jim, thank you to you too, but the USA is exactly the type of problem newcomers have, that they don't get carrier support. While very valuable info yes, it does indicate that as of yet, no carrier support in the USA.

Tomi Ahonen :-)

Abdul Muis

Digi Malaysia offering Nokia 3 & Nokia 6 for their postpaid contract...

http://new.digi.com.my/smartphone/Nokia-3
http://new.digi.com.my/smartphone/Nokia-6

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