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April 09, 2013

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JDawg

It's a sad sight indeed to see the once proud Nokia, now being pimped by MSFT. This will only tarnish their image even further.

M$ made NOK their b*tch (possibly through under the table payouts to the board, I can honestly see no other way how a board with any traces of sanity will keep a fool like Elop as CEO for 2 and a half years) in the hopes they could devalue them enough to scoop them up for pennies and soak up NOK's patent portfolio as a bonus. Unfortunately for them, their own house is folding in on them like punctured weather balloon:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/01/20/sell-microsoft-now-game-over-ballmer-loses/

Personally, I am glad M$'s evil monopoly is finally coming crashing down, but I am saddened to see them take down NOK with them.

eduardo

People say that when Nokia decided it couldn't continue with Symbian, it had no choice but Windows Mobile because with Android it would have been just one more Android OEM.

I don't think that is true. It would have had some huge advantages over all the other Android companies, including Samsung. Nokia was number one in brand, distribution (retail and telecom relations), and hardware design and manufacturing. If it had put full energy into Android and intelligently leveraged its strengths, it might now be number one. It almost certainly would be in much better shape than it is now with Windows Phone.

And even if the WP bet had lead to good sales, let us remember that its favorable treatment from Microsoft would have been only temporary. That is because Microsoft's interest is to make WP a widely-used mobile OS with many manufacturers, just like Windows is in desktops and Windows Mobile was for a while in cell phones. So once WP caught on with Nokia, Microsoft would have dropped its special treatment of Nokia and helped out all the other WP oem's.

It was very unlikely the Microsoft bet would have paid off over the long term, but an Android one might have.

Kenny

When a CEO talks about Windows Phone market share and not his company's market share you know that he is just a mole.

WP8 is not going to save Nokia. At the high end users in Europe and U.S. have lost interest in the Lumia 920 & 820 and at the low end WP8 is just not suitable for developing countries. They require constant online data to be useful and low end Lumia phones like the 720, 620 and 520 come with 512MB RAM which cripples the phones making them unable to run many apps including games like Temple Run.

There is basically no reason for any user to buy a low end Lumia when he can get a much better Android phone for the same price or cheaper. Better in terms of hardware, os, performance, functions, apps and anything else you can think of.

new_guy

I would like to read an article from Tomi as to WTF is up with the Nokia board.

Dipankar

The EU complaint filed by Microsoft/Nokia against Google Android is completely baseless. Google never mandates that Android should have the Google apps (Search, Youtube, Maps, Play store etc.). It is up to OEM's to include these or not. Of course, most handset manufacturers who want to leverage the app store & navigation would include these, but then again, see what Amazon has done with Kindle.

Tester

@Dipankar:

If I had read the complaint correctly, it's about forcing all Google apps in if you want to have the Play store, as it's an all or nothing option at the moment.

And knowing our European regulators they may see merit here and it wouldn't be beyond them to order Google to separate the apps. It wouldn't change much, though. Even if manufacturers have the choice, they'd probably install everything anyway, just for users' convenience.

Of course, if MS wins, they'd lose anyway because it'd be a precedent if they act the same, should WP, against all odds, flourish.

With doing nonsense like that they won't beat Google though. I doubt there's many people out there that think Microsoft is a more friendly company than Google.

Winter

@Timo
"That is what defines tomorrow's success, "

So you bought all these Lumias? :-)

But what a success WP has been. MS have spend more on selling WP than it earned from the sales itself. It looks as if it would have been cheaper to simply give away the Lumias and not do the marketing campaign at all.

AtTheBottomOfTheHilton

About the Lenovo and Blackberry merge rumor, I simply cannot find any reason for it other than just for the cause of a merge itself. Blackberry is profitable and this before the revenue of BB10 has kicked in so there is no financial reason that Blackberry needs Lenovo. I see a risk with a Lenovo and Blackberry merge and that is that large companies like Lenovo often have the inability to understand innovative and technological values (HP and WebOS as example). Blackberry in the hands of Lenovo will certainly put all the hard work and development done by Blackberry at risk. The BOD and CEO of Blackberry must therefore be resilient against any merge that obviously will not give them any advantage. During the 90s the merge fest started among company management as that was only thing they understood which has led to several known fiascos. What Blackberry needs to do is to find partners in the mobile service sector which in general doesn’t require any merge at all but will provide Blackberry the service palette that most customers need.

zlutor

@Timo: "We are way beyond those laggy Symbian phones" - have you tried an N9? :-)
That is a masterpiece...

Let's hope Nokia will do some more - whatever OS they use..

JJ

I would give my left nut to see contract between Nokia and Microsoft...
There's gotta be some X years exclusive deal with MS without right to cancel it.
I wouldn't give a Nobel prize in economic sciences for the genius who signed that kind of deal.

Winter

@JJ
On the condition that I do not have to take possession of your left nut:

http://www.zdnet.com/nokia-paying-microsoft-500m-for-using-windows-phone-7000012276/

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-get-more-than-gives-2013

eduardo

@winter

Good links. However, I bet there are some secret provisions in the contract that would make our jaws drop if we learned of them.

By the way, where are the pro-microsoft trolls today? I did a post on why Nokia should have chosen Android, and they have nothing to say to argue I am wrong.

Tan Chin Huat

Microsoft is a bully pure and simple. When a bully falls I will be happy to see him splat. The anti-trust complain reeks of desperation.

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