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January 15, 2013

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John Waclawsky

The reality is the real suffering is occurring in the Microsoft eco-system. The fact that NO ONE WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE OR TABLET doesn't mean they are not popular. On the contrary but not using microsoft software. In fact sales are migrating from the Microsoft eco-system to Android and Apple.

http://beta.fool.com/rsaintvilus/2013/01/21/microsofts-q2-time-to-kick-ballmer-and-pcs-to-the/22254/

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@Baron95
// Why are you dragging me

It's my little "daemon invocation rite", calling you by name :)

That Waclawsky guy also made me bored. And I just thought, we need here a better troll than he is, a real PRO clown... Someone, whose ass we all can kick, inteligent way, and not that BORING TRUTH prophet of NOBODY WANTS A WINDOWS PHONE :) And I thought, Baron95 would fit perfectly!

Ok, seriously, the data I quoted is clear, it predicts Apple biz in USA to be MORE peaky, not less.

Higher high, 71% vs. 65%,
is followed by lower low, 50% vs. 56%

I call this MORE peaky.

That's why I recalled you, AAPL bull, to see once again, that your best points are still weak.

And, to add to AAPL trouble, subsidy game in USA also got endangered recently.

newbie reader

@winter
// So you see competition as the death of the free market.
// Interesting viewpoint on economic development.

Yes! :)
But it is not just him, it is a common trend.

"free market competition", once praised, is called these days "race to the bottom"

And "decent, healthy business" are cartels, locks and monopoly game

What was once "design" is now called "innovation",

while "innovation" is called "disruptive technology"

and, to top it all, development of cheaper and better competing product is called horrible "cannibalization".


The truth is, Corporate USA is no longer competetive worldwide, and it is mostly cornered in the high-end of the market. Anything new means now only losses for them, and anything cheaper also means losses for them, and free market competition means losses for them. So, this change of the words and attitudes.

Henrik

@Baron95 I never said that we have had unlimited SMS for 6 years. I'm saying that we have it now and that we have had it for some time.

Travelling around Europe, or general just outside your country will cost roaming fees that is the same as if a person for the USA travels outside the US.
And then yes SMS cost money but so do data. so iMessenge er nit truly unlimited SMS anywhere, anytime.
Try and look at the price for data roaming. And if you say "I'm always on wifi" then you have not travelt.

And yes we are lagging a little behind on 4G but we have 32+ mbit/s 3G and the HSPA+ that I notice is sometimes called 4G in the US. That is just 3G here in Europe and we had that for quite some time.

And the hole part about why bother that you get locked for 2 years. Someone else is paying you bill anyway.
Sure if someone else pays my bills I would not care what stuff cost. But for many they pay them self.

And what's wrong with the government protect there citizens.
They did not do anything to begin with. But they know how important communication are. And then the price did not go down when the cost of operation did. Then they start making regulations to protect there citizens.
By making a law that they could not bind people that long they made the carriers compete. They did not force them to lower there prices. But they made it so people could see the real price. And people started to pick what was cheapest. And leaving carriers they did not like.
And the carriers had to make better products to keep and gain costumers.
What is better 10 costumers that you earn 100$ from each or 1000$ that you only earn 20$ form each?

Ohh and about regulations. Data roaming in Europe is for me 1.16 US$ /MB because of regulations. And outside Europe it's 20.53 US$ /MB because we do not have regulations on that.
So I can really see how regulations is hurting me.

Tester

@Henrik:

Why do you even bother to argue with this corporate sleazebag?

It's quite obvious where our beloved Baron95 stands: Big profits for big US corporations is all that matters. Everything else is noise that needs to be eliminated.

newbie reader

LG topped Apple for #2 spot in USA phone market, http://news.yahoo.com/lg-reportedly-overtakes-apple-america-no-2-handset-001930876.html

LG Optimus Pro
1080p screen, quad core Krait, 32Gb and SD slot, 13mpix camera and 3000mah battery
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/21/lg-optimus-g-pro-official-ntt-docomo/

Now only Sammy is missed from 1080p club :)

And note, that I predicted some time ago for Lenovo and LG to joint top5 smartphone vendor list!

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