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July 11, 2012

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Dipankar Mitra

Jolla is indeed great news, and frankly I'm pleasantly surprised that Elop allowed this. I'm waiting for the next bit of good news when they launch the first Jolla smartphone which will definitely be my next phone.

Afewgoodmen

Let's see what Jolla would hatch up. If the products is as refreshing as the N9, then we truly have a winner in our hands!

David Greaves / lbt

wrt : "not quite certain what the exact platforms will be that Jolla will launch on, they talk of a new branch of the Linux OS tree called Mer"

http://www.merproject.org/ has some history on Mer. For the exploratory amongst you this includes some links to analysis of what we felt MeeGo could have done better.

Given a world as sharing as opensource there's a degree of fluidity and collaboration. So whilst Jolla *is* "MeeGo-based" (and that's important for the market which would miss the subtleties) Jolla have tweeted that it is actually built on Mer, an evolutionary project that continues the vision of MeeGo more than the "brand" of MeeGo.

Henri Bergius

Mer was originally "Maemo Reconstructed", a community-lead fully open source version of Nokia's Maemo. That original effort was discontinued when MeeGo seemed to deliver the same promises: http://mer-project.blogspot.de/2010/02/mer-project-just-bunch-of-redshirts.html

When MeeGo was discontinued by Intel, the Mer team again picked it up, and are carrying the MeeGo dream forward: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-October/484215.html

I've written about this an more in my "The Dreams of the MeeGo Diaspora" post last weekend: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/meego-diaspora/

bl0wf1sh

All the best for the Jolla team! Let's see what they can achieve :)

In the meantime, should also mention, that "Mär" means "fairy tale" in German (and is equivalent to one of the possible pronunciations of "Mer" I find).

Stefan Constantinescu

I talked to the CEO earlier today. Recorded the interview and transcribed it.

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/07/11/interview-jussi-hurmola-ceo-jollamobile-audio-and-text-available/

vladkr

That's promising :)

I hope their smartphones will be made in Finland, but if Jolla guys go to China every month, I suppose they won't.

Anyway, it's not clear yet how we can support them.

Joulutonttu

CEO Jussi Hurmola said this morning on Huomenta Suomi, Finnish morning tv that they examined if it is possible to make phones in Finland, but the OEMs are in China nowadays.

But we are very proud of Finnish software engineering still!

Good luck, Jolla!

vladkr

Thank you Joulutonttu for the information.

It may seem futile to consider the "Made in Finland" sticker as imported, but it really is to me, and I'm always keen on buying made in Finland stuff (R-Collection, Marimekko, Fiskars, Nokia, Nokian Renkat/Jalkineet...), even if it's sometimes more expensive and/or hard to get.

So, I'm ready to replace my N9 - although it's still quite recent - with a Finnish-made Jolla.

If you allow me a bad wordplay : Yalla Jolla !

vladkr

"Made in Finland" sticker as importANT, not "imported"
Sorry for the typo

Cke

Spinning out a small product group to do innovation outside of an ossified big corporation is a time tested way to go. When they make good, the parent company will buy them back. It has happened in Seattle many times with MSFT spinoffs. Good luck!

Adam

My greatest appreciation to the Jolla developers. I am sending a song of Sergio Endrigo to them the "l'arca di Noe" "Ark of Noe" (almost about Jolla and Mer) bringing the true ones to the successful future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT5wNK-mzvw

Ninvestor

Looking for another way to take the other side of the news/trade - any ideas of how to short this? I smell a money maker being on the other side.

elm70

I can't congratulate with the people in Jolla

Timo, you are fighting since over 1 year for show what if it is not a crime is a total bad management in Nokia

No, I don't appreciate people that use 25k euro from Nokia for be a competitor of Nokia
Like I don't appreciate that Finns and government in Finland did nothing to protect Nokia from a total moron or a mayor criminal

Tchuss

E_lm_70

JD!

Nokia should transfer support of N9 software to Jolla. That way, people will get bugs sorted out and also Jolla can be able to relase Next version of N9 with Nokia... Just in case Win 8 phones f*cked up the whole company!

zlutor

@JD!: So, Nokia should finance its wannabe competitor? :-) Giving full access to the source code, etc?

On the other hand I, as N9 user, would welcome it, of course...

Oliver

I have been praying for something like this to happen.
Despite the fact there exist lots of Manufactures peddling a variety of options, I still believe the void created by Nokia's implosion can not be filled by any American or Asian manufacturer. There has always been something personal about Nokia and the way the devices are made.
I hope this new start up can continue with the high quality and with a better focus.

AtTheBottomOfTheHilton

Does anybody know who the investors are. According to the interview with the CEO they hired 5 per week. You can't hire 5 persons a week unless you have an investor with very deep pockets and also that they believe in this business. Who is it? Is it Nokia themselves, feeling guilty firing all these people?

ylioptimistijollako?

How the h**l some little start-up can launch 2 phones only in 6-9 months when much bigger companies waste ~18 months building one phone?

BeRealistic

Most of the disappointment, anger and frustration about Nokia seems to be simply and magically translating into high hopes and unrealistic expectations about Jolla.

This is too naive on the part of even a leading analyst like you, Tommy!! Lets be grounded. What chances do Jolla have to create a new alternative, unless, unless, they find a big sponsor with deep pockets and long hands,in next six months.

Lets keep emotions and patriotism apart and compare Jolla with many of the other similar Mobile OS /smart phone efforts going on around the world. (I am a FinN)

vladest

@ylioptimistijollako: i think its possible having N9/N950 design/development background

zlutor

@AtTheBottomOfTheHilton: They mentioned "Jolla is standing on shoulders of a giant" in some text.

On the other hand here there is an interview with tha CEO (www.intomobile.com/2012/07/11/interview-jussi-hurmola-ceo-jollamobile-audio-and-text-available/) where he explicitely states they have 10+million euros...

So, something BIG is backing them. Or some really _wealthy_ personel. :-)

Matches

@ylioptimistijollako: Don't you read this blog? Meego is magic.

C. Enrique Ortiz

Not everything is lost. As I expected, some of the (ex)Nokia visionaries & risk takers would find opportunity out of chaos:

Einstein Three Rules of Work:
(1) Out of clutter (or chaos) find simplicity;
(2) From discord find harmony;
(3) In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.

Congrats to Jolla... if successful, their work may in fact become Nokia's future baseline...

ceo

Fritz

Really looking forward to this. Will be quite interesting, what a dedicated bunch of FOSS enthusiasts can do with sufficient backing. I've invested so much time in Linux/Qt/Gtk and I'm glad someone continues to provide hardware for those technologies. Linux is really coming of age nowadays. I'm writing this on a beautiful and great working Ubuntu Desktop, all my work evolves around Linux and now I can continue using it on a phone. What more of an ecosystem do you want?

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