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June 14, 2012

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hotzigetty

Regarding the layoffs: does it include the previosuly announced set (the few thousand moved to Accenture) and is it limited to just the manufacturing/Supply chain (wrt the closed plants in Ulm, etc). If not, I wonder which sets of teams will be hit. It can't be Symbian, most of those people were moved to Accenture. Is it part of the other divisions? Mapping? Imaging?

foobar

At least Ulm was central to the development of their new Linux/Qt based feature phone platform. So I guess that's dead then.

anti

Yes, Maltemi is dead

Spawn

They let all of the Meltimi-team go. Meltimi is gone official now. The plan is to focus on the Lumia-strategy and future shutdown everything else, e.g. S40, S60, Symbian. Yes, they are moving out of the feature-phone market and are focusing on smartphones!

@Tomi
That explains the africa-case or doesn't it?

Tomi T Ahonen

Hi everybody

gosh, thanks for the info about Ulm. That is HORRIBLE news, Meltemi dead. That is also why Mary was fired (she was a proponent of Meltemi and Linux..)

Thank you, keep comments going, I am so overloaded, it will take me time to get back to comments here..

Tomi Ahonen :-)

chaussures converse

Va multumesc pentru acest articol. Asta e tot ce pot spune. Aveţi cel mai sigur au facut acest lucru pe blog-ul în ceva special. Stii clar ce faci, ai acoperit bases.Thanks atât de multe!

shy

Tomi - Nokia says that Scalado was not purchased and that all of Scalados existing arrangements stay in place. I have no idea what they have actually announced there, but it looks like a transfer of assets and leaving the existing company as a shell to fulfil old commitments. That's a really shitty thing to do when staff have equity since you get to bully them into accepting a miserable replacement or holding their equity in a worthless shell company. It happened to me once.

Stefan at IntoMobile has more info http://www.intomobile.com/2012/06/14/nokia-we-bough-scalado-and-were-going-fire-10000-people-too/

Martin Yagi

Tomi - so Nokia doesn't want to be at the luxury end of the market (Vertu), nor the budget end of the market (Symbian/Meltemi). It seems to me that the strategy is to try and compete directly and exclusively with Apple with Lumia....good luck with that one, Elop!

Meltemi

Meltemi product creation was in Ulm and Oulu. SW development in Espoo (UX, Linux core), Tampere (UI FW + Qt) + all Qt sites (Trolltech heritage). Over 1000 people focused on that. Nokia security working hard to ensure code does not leak outside Nokia, they already closed development enviroments and wikis this morning before announcements. By now they most propably have wiped hard drives where Meltemi code was residing.

Sander van der Wal

There is this theory (by Horace Dediu from www.asymco.com) that Nokia got into trouble because they were focusing too much on feature phones, and that they were caught by surprise by the smartphone disruption. Killing off Meltemi is then the reasonable finalization of the strategy of retargeting the business on smartphones.

JJ

To me it's now 100% sure that Nokia is actually led from Richmond. It doesn't matter if Nokia dies as long as Windows Phone survives.

cycnus

@Meltemi

It's a real sad news.... :(
Elop is a criminal, and must be trialed for justice

@Tomi

Do you still think Nokia still can turn around, or it's TOTAL JUNK now?

Meltemi

I think Mary took the hit for not delivering Meltemi on time. My understanding is that they tried to reuse MeeGo and Android code on OS core but ended up doing lots of OS core work (more than originally expected). What remains to be seen what happens to Qt key competences that are still in house. Expect to see someone buying those teams but they might leave before that.

Dominik

They lost.

They were killed in a sandwich position between Blackberry and iPhone

MeeGoMaSteR

PFFFT!

*Farts at Nokia*

I am however laughing because now Meltami too is G.O.N.E. !

MeeGoMaSteR

It is fitting that there is a lunatic's hospital beside Nokia Research Center in Oulu. The engineers can be accommodated conveniently there and scrap metal of the buildings can be sold to be melted (meltemid) again, Ha hA haA !

tbr

@jj

Since Feb 11,11 Nokia slogan should be "Make Windows Phone a success, or die trying!"

incognito

@tbr, I think that the slogan actually is 'Die trying to make Windows Phone a success.' No `OR`s whatsoever.

Vinicius

Elop should be in prison, not in a multi-million job position.

i *hope* I can at least grab an 808 before Nokia runs out of business in less than 6 months time. Because that is the LAST Nokia phone. (Lumia is a Microsoft phone)

I honestly want to see Nokia closing doors already, I can't stand this much more. It is painful to see such a good, beloved company, being run down like it is.

incognito

It's official, Meltemi and Qt for the `Next Billion` are trully gone :(

--

"It is official – the dream of a great mobile product in Nokia Ulm is over."

Naren Karattup
Qt Software, Head of Global Consultancy at Nokia
( http://twitter.com/nkaratt/status/213202227379179520 )

--

"Next billion strategy is based on Java. Period!

I’m also looking for new opportunities…

It was an interesting 15.5 years ride in Nokia! Lot of talent, lot of innovations and passionate people!"

Eero Penttinen
Domain Lead, Qt for MeeGo R&D at Nokia

( https://twitter.com/eeropenttinen/status/213209218164076544 )

Meltemi

Just to correct my earlier posting. Total Meltemi org was a bit over 1000 people. This included HW guys too. So # of Meltemi SW developers was less. Still 100s though + subcontracted guys.

zlutor

Is there any official info about ending 'next billion & QT' strategy? Or any official info about Meltemi?
They were planning to release two devices within months, weren't they?

incognito

@zlutor, nothing official from Nokia PR (then again they never officially said they are working on it), but Naren Karattup, Eero Penttinen and Felipe Contreras confirmed it on Tweeter - all of them work at Nokia, directly on Meltemi or close to the Meltemi project.

Meltemi

@zlutor, why would a company provide official info on killing something that never existed officially? Maybe 'M' was just a big internal joke to make people believe there was something to replace S40 and keep Qt guys busy. Instead they made S40 full touch :-)

Spawn

@zlutor

For two devices: Yes, the project was close to deliver but compared to Meego there is no contract with another company what means we will never ever see the results.

That is very sad. From what I know Meltimi was Meego but with lots of performance-optimizations for low end hardware and yet a full Linux with all the applications.

RIP Nokia.

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