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May 21, 2012

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elm70

@TomiFan ...

Please ... what you are saying has no sense.
Skype just updated their apps for Android on May 2012.
Skype is part of Microsoft since 2H 2011.

If Microsoft would be listening to the telecoms, it would not spend energy on making batter version of Skype for smartphone
Instead it will start a table discussion about how to integrate skype in the telecom.

But, I think Microsoft is too arrogant for sit down with Vodafone, or T-Mobile or AT&T and discuss what is the best common interest.

In the meanwhile, Apple and Google enjoy the war of telecom vs Microsoft and Nokia.

Tchuss

e_lm_70

elm70

@TomiFan

What you are saying is just your own speculation, there is no clear sign that Skype will offer a valuable solution for the telecom.

Skype success is the free skype 2 skype call, do you think this will be changed ? If there is no money, what can be shared with the telecom?

Then, why telecoms should support Skype, preferring the OS owned by same owner of Skype, and hope in a better control, on what the same owner intentionally keep uncontrolled in different platforms ... this way of business is not a collaborative business, and telecom world due to the nature of few suppliers and few customers has been always a collaborative/partnership business

So, at best Microsoft has no idea how to deal with telecom companies.

Finally, your sentence about desktop vs mobile ... you are missing then convergences between mobile-tablet and desktop ... so there is no more choice between mobile and desktop world ... there is only one convergent world ... and if you fail on the growing world (mobile), your product will fail globally in a meter of time

Tchuss

e_lm_70

Tomifan

@elm70
Free Skype call could be charged by your data transfer, not per call minute. So just effectively "stamp" the data transfer to be "Skype data". End-user can then see whether it is cheaper to use data or voice and operator takes the frosting from the cake regardless of the choice. Point is - no longer "fixed monthly fee covers my calls too" . option.
You're right about tablets. I probably should have formed it that "Microsoft has desktop Windows 8, tablet Windows 8 and desktop+tablet Skype client as main focus."
Seriously, Microsoft may exactly have no idea how to deal with telecom companies, but have always focused on the stuff that is NOT operator controlled. So Desktop & Tablets it is!

Tomifan

As said in previous post, Microsoft has its focus in desktop & tablets. And Skype as their acquisition inherits that focus. For desktop & tablets, you really don't care operator billing as all data goes in the end through landline connections (even if there was WiFi in between).
Still: MS is the one in deciding position on Skype. So if you were an operator, which is more worse:
1) Google and Apple (Android & iOS) dominated market where NONE of the mobile OS vendors can affect Skype OR
2) Android - iOS - WP market where possibility to do negotiations exists, shall it become reality or not?
First one is certain doom and latter one is plausible doom.
The global sales boycott that would be based on MS owning Skype just makes no point on operator perspective, due to direct market share increase of the other platforms with better Skype applications.

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Thanks Tomi... that's what I thought as well, but there are few things that are still illogical to me

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