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May 21, 2012

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Mush

@Jack & @Tomifan

It seems Nokia's board is confident that the new strategy will eventually pay off. The new chairman Mr. Siilasmaa told before the AGM that "I'm certain we have the right team, the right strategy and increasingly the right products to emerge as a successful company" (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120503-705879.html)

And here is another interesting quote from http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/14751_Snippets_from_the_Nokia_AGM.php:

"Jorma Ollila reiterated on exceptionally strong words that the change in strategy was mutual, decisions and reasons for it agreed and approved by the board and that Stephen Elop had his and their full trust."

Hooray.

Earendil Star

Tomi, just to let you know: something is moving...

Google filed a complaint with US and European authorities over the MS & Nokia joint Mosaid trolling venture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-alleges-microsoft-nokia-are-abusing-mobile-patents-in-complaint-filed-in-europe/2012/05/31/gJQAHW8S5U_story.html

Many of us had highlighed the absurdity of Nokia abandoning its grip on its core patents, and sharing it with MS through the Mosaid deal.
Just to explain: Nokia, while receiving no clear benefit in return, gifted some 2000 core patents to a Canadian (like THT Elop) company, Mosaid, and... voila... suddenly also MS was benefitting from these patents alongside Nokia. A move that absurdly devalues Nokia's IP treasure chest.

Totally unexplainable, unless you remember that THT Elop is just pursuing the MS agenda, and that Nokia is just being scavenged to rescue the burning WP platform.

Well, it appears now that Google, after knocking out the clumsy Oracle attack on Dalvik and completing its Motorola Mobility acquisition, is now starting to strike back on MS and its practice of blackjacking OEMs à la mafioso, forcing them to pay fees on Android installations. Very interesting.

By the way, also amusing is that the Washington Post is saying: "2000 Nokia AND MS" patents. Yet this is blatantly false. Even Mosaid itself says all patents were Nokia's:
http://www.mosaid.com/corporate/news-events/releases-2011/110901.php
And this is very well explained in this ZDNet article by long time softie supporter MJF:
https://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-weighs-in-on-mosaid-nokia-patent-deal/10523

As somebody already pointed out, this is more and more a battle of mis-information, not ecosystems.
The ecosystem battle is already over, and the winner is not WP.

QtFan

@Earendil Star
Came here to post the same thing.

Not only Nokia is using its patents to attack every target MS points at, but they are also going to share pillage with MS.
Nokia is truly MS's lapdog. Nokia is being stripped of all assets it has left.

At least, "Google vs Oracle" was some very good news both for android, every tech company and society.

Pripyat Bhakti (india)

How You feel now Nokia engineers, buyers, officers, as your workplace is soon beginning to crumble..?

Perttu, Joni, Timo from Oulu... what are your feelings now as your large mortgages are defaulting..??

elm70

TomiFan

The point made by eFlop about the Microsoft ability to control Skype is a perfect absurd statement

How can you state that Google and Apple can't control Skype, while Microsoft can?
What is the point?

Yes Skype works better on Android then on WP, simply because, Microsoft has a joke OS.
But funny enough, Skype apps for iPhone and Android are done by Skype, so by Microsoft

Yes, Google and Apple have nothing to do with Skype, and clearly if Skype is ruining you business, you don't bring your money to Skype, so not to Microsoft that own Skype now

I think Tomi is 100% right, after Skype acquisition, WP that was a looser OS, now is a dead OS

Tchuss

E_lm_70

elm70

@TomiFan ...

Please ... what you are saying has no sense.
Skype just updated their apps for Android on May 2012.
Skype is part of Microsoft since 2H 2011.

If Microsoft would be listening to the telecoms, it would not spend energy on making batter version of Skype for smartphone
Instead it will start a table discussion about how to integrate skype in the telecom.

But, I think Microsoft is too arrogant for sit down with Vodafone, or T-Mobile or AT&T and discuss what is the best common interest.

In the meanwhile, Apple and Google enjoy the war of telecom vs Microsoft and Nokia.

Tchuss

e_lm_70

elm70

@TomiFan

What you are saying is just your own speculation, there is no clear sign that Skype will offer a valuable solution for the telecom.

Skype success is the free skype 2 skype call, do you think this will be changed ? If there is no money, what can be shared with the telecom?

Then, why telecoms should support Skype, preferring the OS owned by same owner of Skype, and hope in a better control, on what the same owner intentionally keep uncontrolled in different platforms ... this way of business is not a collaborative business, and telecom world due to the nature of few suppliers and few customers has been always a collaborative/partnership business

So, at best Microsoft has no idea how to deal with telecom companies.

Finally, your sentence about desktop vs mobile ... you are missing then convergences between mobile-tablet and desktop ... so there is no more choice between mobile and desktop world ... there is only one convergent world ... and if you fail on the growing world (mobile), your product will fail globally in a meter of time

Tchuss

e_lm_70

Flash drive

The article of this site is so informative.After reading this article I get some solution like a fresh air.Keep posting your new article.
Flash drive

vgp-bps13/q

Thanks Tomi... that's what I thought as well, but there are few things that are still illogical to me

fastpokemap

Really appreciate for your amazing article. Keep going on, good stuff. Thank you for this valuable information.

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