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January 30, 2012

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Peter

Kalle |,

That's the bad execution of the OLD managment.
Elop has made no improvement after 12 months in charge of nokia.

Actually Elop made it much worse. He disrupted all execution of nokia. He will fire sale nokia that Elop only mission.

Sue Elop and nokia board is the only way to get nokia back.

Regards,
Peter

n9

I bet that wen the day comes that nokia fills in for bankrupcy some people will still say elop is a genius an that in 6 months we will see how it was all great....

access 2010

Elop preaches about the battle of ecosystems. The Nokia Symbian platform, one of several Nokia technical platforms, and the one most suited for mobile advertising today, is not just the world's biggest smartphone operating system by installed base - and advertisers will equate installed base with 'audience' rather than new sales, where last year Elop's mis-management of Nokia smarpthones saw Symbian sales fall behind Google's Android and Apple's iPhone iOS. But lets just examine that potential advertising target audience a bit more. Here are the world's twenty largest countries by population, and the biggest smartphone OS as of November as measured by statcounter:

michael

What would be true reasons to "destroy Nokia from the inside". Why are there no plans to destroy Nike or Sony or Omega for that matter? Why doesn't Wall Street go after these or any other companies. Yes you may argue that somebody in the process will get rich, but somebody wil get rich in destroying any company in the world, and we don't see that happening on massive scale.

Was Wall Street really hell bent on destroying Kodak? I don't think so! Kodak screwed themselves! Financial institutions, moneymarkers and Wall Street will go for the kill when they smell blood. Nokia began bleeding long before Elop came along. Nokia screwed themselves big time.

The only argument for Symbian having any future is that it had foothold in third world countries thus having billions and billions users is wrong. So how come casette tapes became obsolete?

Is future of any product or technology guaranteed just because lots of people are using it? If this is so, then do we need innovation? Innovation brings competition.

There were probably billions and billions of CRT tv sets and VHS players out there as well, does this mean that there is no need to develop, market and start selling next generation technologies like LCD TV's or Blu-ray players? Should we be stuck in old technology just because lots of people are using it?

OK Mobile Unit is sold, for reasons unknown. Please look at this list of Nokia acquisitions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Nokia and tell us which of these technologies were truly implemented in Nokia devices, in such way that they really differentiated Nokia mobiles from their competition. If this is the case, then why bother.

US gov

@michael

There were some reason to bring down nokia.

First, nokia is not an american company, and nokia refuse to bow down into american law.
fact? no carrierIQ on nokia phone. The US government must be very piss off that nokia refuse to play by them rule, and make nokia suffer in USA.... btw, thank you for nokia for not letting big brother bully us.

Second, nokia is one of the company that destroy Qualcom income, thus making qualcom pay lesser tax.
fact? nokia support GSM full harted, and don't want to support CDMA with smartphone. CDMA outside of USA have become a joke because it's associated with cheap and cheap services, thus making it's hard to gain profit.

Third, without nokia dominating the OS, and making the iOS, android, WP7, it would make the US government have a grasp on everything because it's all resided in USA. and also it's bring tax (money) into the US government.

Forth, microsoft. Microsoft is loosing a lot in mobile market, and don't really know what to do.
fact? look at kin....
fact2? look at WP7
and there were a lot of prediction that computer (x86) would be replaced by a simpler netbook with ARM/android counterpart in the future. Reason??? some user don't really need the super power that x86 can give. Take for an example a computer use by a secretary to type a letter, email, and also browsing. why would someone need a 100Watt hogging machine, while the 5Watt counterpart can also do it, and easier to use.
So whats about this??? Microsoft want to put a foothold in phone/tablet area, and the best they can do is to use nokia for their own benefit.... hint... Search for SENDO with google. sendo, the UK based company was the victim of microsoft in mobile OS, long before Nokia.

N9

@ Baron95 Priceless!!!
Priceless!!! I would call the deal MS has with Qualcomm, being the only sported arm CPU on wp....
I bet Qualcomm really had some hilarious moments wen nokia had to use its CPU's for LUMIA... that was Priceless!!!
But hey what ever is good for NOKIA right??? yeay :D

vladkr

Article about Lumia Launches in Finland

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Sales+of+Nokia+Lumia+commence+in+Finland+/1135270311911

I absolutely adore the last paragraph!

Peter

@ vladkr, at which price,data plan and contract are they selling lumia ? lumia 800 or 710 ? why is very basic information missing ? it is pure false news.

Peter

@ vladkr, strange, author compares it to n95, not n8. they are afraid of n8/n9 for what ?

vladkr

@Peter

I don't know, articles on Finnish national broadcast company's (YLE) website are even worse.
When I read this
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2012/02/ollila_reactions_to_nokia_lumia_positive_3225126.html

"Ollila said that analyst and consumer response to Nokia’s first Windows-based smartphone has been even better than expected."

That reminds me of Brezhnevian era in the USSR; is it the ostrich syndrome or just deliberate lie?
--
About the price, it's hard to say, because there are many offers (and my knowledge of Finnish is quite poor), but according to what I understood from Saunalahti and Sonera website, the cellphone alone is about 16 Euros/month - regardless voice/data plan - with a 2 years contract. Maybe someone will correct me on that.

Peter

vladkr ,

obviously Jorma Ollila felt the pressure from true nokia shareholders (not those who bought 5% and naked sold short 50%).

Ollila felt the angry from blogers like Tomi and nokia loyal consumers too.

But Ollila still atempts to protect Elop and his plan to destroy nokia from inside.

Ollila had strong connection with US Wall Street than anyone else from nokia. He won his very fisrt "fame" as Citi Bank agent in Finland about 30 years ago. And kept that connection till Today.

Time for Ollila to play ultimate destruction of nokia with $160 of nokia shareholdes blood.

Thats why Ollila brought in Elop to do the job at a time when nokia releasing attracting product nokia n8/E7/C7 and the incoimg God product of Meego N9/n950.

Regards,
Peter


Peter

vladkr ,

obviously Jorma Ollila felt the pressure from true nokia shareholders (not those who bought 5% and naked sold short 50%).

Ollila felt the angry from blogers like Tomi and nokia loyal consumers too.

But Ollila still atempts to protect Elop and his plan to destroy nokia from inside.

Ollila had strong connection with US Wall Street than anyone else from nokia. He won his very fisrt "fame" as Citi Bank agent in Finland about 30 years ago. And kept that connection till Today.

Time for Ollila to play ultimate destruction of nokia with $160 Billion of nokia shareholdes blood.

Thats why Ollila brought in Elop to do the job at a time when nokia releasing attracting product nokia n8/E7/C7 and the incoimg God product of Meego N9/n950.

Regards,
Peter

Peter

Jorma Ollila's background:
Prior to joining Nokia in 1985 Jorma Ollila worked eight years in corporate banking at Citibank's London and Helsinki offices, and when he joined Nokia his tasks involved international investment deals.

Interesting, tomi's Finnish hero had been a Wall Street Banker before taking a position in nokia.

That's explained everything why he followed and keeps following the instruction from Wall Street to destroy nokia from inside.

Peter

@vladkr , Jorma Ollila took command from US Wall Street to destroy nokia from inside. He has no choice but execute it by bringing in Steven Elop to disrupt nokia management/R&D/sales/patent licensing/mobile advertising/ecosystem and fire sale nokia assets at rate of 1 cent for 1 dollar. Nokia is dead already.


bigtalker

Peter,

You should go to Hollywood

Peter

@bigtalker, this is profile is not drama:
Prior to joining Nokia in 1985 Jorma Ollila worked eight years in corporate banking at Citibank's London and Helsinki offices, and when he joined Nokia his tasks involved international investment deals.

That's Jorma Ollila.

Peter

@bigtalker, it is Jorma Ollila and Steven Elop who are qualified to go Hollywood. I am just one of nokia shareholersa and consumers.

Peter

@bigtalker, but seriously, Jorma Ollila and Steven Elop need to be put into jail for life, no bail.

Peter

@bigtalker,
Platform 2011 shipments Share (%) Growth
Android 237.8 48.8% 244.1%
iOS 93.1 19.1% 96.0%
Symbian 80.1 16.4% -29.1%
BlackBerry 51.4 10.5% 5%
Bada 13.2 2.7% 183.1%
Windows Phone 6.8 1.4% -43.3%
Others 5.4 1.1% 14.4%
Total 87.7 100% 62.7%
--------------------------
look at above latest table,

Elop sabtaged Symbian/Meegao and caused it was dumped by consumers.
Elop jump into another quickly sinking ship so called windows phone whhose market share plunges even faster than his sabotaged symbian/Meego.

Yes, it is a Hollywood movie with $160B investment money burned in merely 10 months.

KPOM

If Navteq were really worth $16 billion, then Nokia wouldn't be at $5/share. They overpaid. Google has been mapping the world ever since the Navteq deal was announced. Navteq might be worth something to Apple, who is obviously trying to loosen its remaining ties to Google. It definitely is worth something to Microsoft. But Apple has the cash to do it on its own if it really wants to, and Microsoft already has a deal with Nokia. Therefore, Navteq's value is diminished.

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