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February 11, 2011

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Arild

Kudos to Tomi for this initiative.

http://www.jobserve.com/homepage.aspx has kept me alive for the past 4 years, good place to start, plenty of UK and Euro jobs.

ryzvonusef

Tomi,, one question: Finnish company Aava is about to launch a Intel based MeeGo phone in MWC, but they were think of it as a "developer"'s phone.

Do you think they will see the gap and pick up Nokia's fleeing employees and start up a proper business selling MeeGo cellphones to consumers?

Nemus

One more link

http://www.slashgear.com/google-offers-sacked-nokia-engineers-a-lifeline-11132817/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashgear+%28SlashGear%29

Baudrillard

My advice to ex-Nokia employees:

Come together, get investors and buy AAVA mobile. Bring new Qt-based MeeGo and Symbian AAVA phones to the world. MeeGo and Symbian are both open source. Elop can't remove that license even if he wanted to. Kill the mother company. It's not just the hardware, it's the software stupid!!!

If anyone starts this, you have a guaranteed €50.000 investment from me. There are many people like me who would help you guys start the next Nokia.

All the best for the future.

 Tomi T Ahonen

Anthony

I removed your comment, it was not appropriate for this blog entry - I recognize what you said, you are welcome to re-post it in the other threat about Nokia Microsoft merger - but for you to say that in this thread where I advise people who have just lost their jobs, that is just cruel by you. I will be happy to respond in the other thread, go there.

Tomi Ahonen

J

Anthony, Tomi's help is meant for those thousands of SW engineers at Nokia who are no longer needed there (or HERE as I can say). Product mechanics designers or marketing specialists will have some good times in swimming in that cold MS sea but for Nokia SW folks this day was the doomsday and any help is appreciated.

I don't find Tomi's comment as offensive, not at all. They are just like most of software-Nokians think.

Actually I still can't believe it happened, Nokia just gave up as SW company. All SW gone with the blink of an eye: Symbian, MeeGo, Qt, in-house apps, OviSuite. Only S40 is left, what a joke.

Elop is now commonly called as Flop in coffee rooms. Our to-be-Jesus just turned out as the Devil itself.
Now the whole Nokia SW R&D is gridlock'd. Don't expect anything new out in few months. We have better things to do, like seeking for a new jobs.

SW Nokia - R.I.P.
Services & solutions Nokia - R.I.P.

Jouko Ahvenainen

Nokia got to do what Nokia got to do. But another thing is employees and software business in Finland particularly. Anyway, I think it has never been healthy Nokia dominates the high tech Finland. My recommendation is to create new companies. But it requires a lot of work and another type of attitude than to be a corporate employee. And business is now very different from Nokia's golden years. It means that people must also be open to learn new things, new technologies, and new business models. I think the key is really that all people really take a look, where the software, mobile and internet business are today.

But I recommend to take those steps, commit to work, and create something new! And as an ad I recommend to check our web site http://www.growvc.com, how you can also use creative models to get other people to work for you and get funding. But it is only the second step. The first one is that you make a decision that you are ready to create something new.

bright side of life

TOMI, I dare you, I challenge you. Please write your analysis how this could come a success! How to sell like hell. And can there be some light 2011. do it.

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Anthony

Please don't do that debate here. I removed your comment again. Bring your discussion to the other thread as I requested. If you can be nice to those who lost their jobs and post some constructive advice, do that here. But the debate about Elop, bring that to the other thread, ok?

All others, if you can talk about job opportunities, please do. If you want to talk about Nokia strategy, not here.

PS to bright side - I will haha

Tomi :-)

Tuomas

Hey!

What about Finnish Aava Mobile Oy? They are developing MeeGo and I think that with funding it could become the next big thing (in Finland)! When it grows it would possibly also hire former Nokia employees, not all, that`s for sure, but at least some part of the Nokia`s underrated staff.. If buying Aava mobiles shares would be possible, I would do it right now!

Tuomas

brightside

tomi, from brightside ps. Sent from afterski levi, do it.

C. Enrique Ortiz

Thanks for doing this Tommi. While my comments are straight to the point w.r.t. current state of things, I do wish the best to Nokia and its people.

The way I can offer help is for Qt developers. If there are any Qt developers, please feel free to have them contact me. My contact info you have plus it is on my blog.

ceo

ex-nokiafan

Can Nokia employes do the same?
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/11/egypts-military-backs-hosni-mubarak-cairo-protests-spread/

ryzvonusef

The Employees certainly had a strong reaction: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-workers-mourn-death-of-symbian-thousands-walk-out/

maanilanlaukaus

@tuomas you are now dreaming about an enemy. where is it? According to your aava proposal, it last time happened in 1918. What battle you want to fight. If nokia is to M then years 39 and few after come to mind. This is the few moments in history where the finnish nation is asked to be defending territory and conquer together with someone else. Can this run in our blood already now. We see soom

SVE

FINDING JOBS IN FINLAND. Nokia veterans, your best assets to some other company (as seen from someone here in Silicon Valley) are your experience in mobile technologies, and your ability to form and deliver a complete working team. Companies the world over are looking to get into mobile, and need to recruit talent. It is much less trouble for a company looking to staff up to get a full team already in-place with proven talents and management to run things versus picking up and moving individuals one-by-one and developing talent in-house.

Your offer:
A complete development team with articulated deliverables, local management in place, government subsidies defined, complete HR costs & practices shown, facilities location & costs, legal business documents all neatly packaged up. Show this with a complete, clear presentation document set.

Shop this deal to the Business VPs and HR departments of all major companies that you think are trying to get into mobile and are sufficiently large enough to afford an international presence. Hint: it's not just United States, it's worldwide companies - and there are thousands. You WILL get interest, and fast.

Nokia as you know it is gone. It will return again to be the pride of Finland, but just like the Phoenix it must be consumed by fire first before being born anew.

Don McLean

I really hope this will lead to Nokians starting a dozen of new companies. Your talent won't be lost.

paulo

Ari Jaaksi need good C / C++ developers http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2011/02/you-can-make-difference.html

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Baron95 - I appreciate your posting was intended as 'constructive' but I trust you also understand, you clearly crossed the line, what we do not need in this thread is the negative vibes. Go post those elsewhere. If you want to honestly help, keep it positive.

Thanks, I know you are a regular, I know also that I am strict with my rules. Don't come here to make anybody's day worse than it is. I removed your comment.

Tomi Ahonen

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adam - I removed your comment. I appreciate the support you showed to the person you mentioned, but that is inappropriate in this thread. This is for people who just learned they have lost their jobs. Bring you comment to the thread about Nokia-Microsoft partnership, not here.

Tomi Ahonen

bierbankje

totally agree with Baudrillard ,

a massive opportunity just created for aavamobile !

probably you can not invest in it. when possible i would.

and what will happen, the smartest and best engineers will now
leave even before they are sacked.

http://www.aavamobile.com/careers.php

Don McLean

that_guy, you must be 15

Lam

I know this wish is probably a fairy-tale; but I'm really hoping that some of these brilliant people who are now facing the axe, could also find the will to really put their smart heads together and create a brand new start-up - but with 2011 rules. Create a killer concept - use the ideas, beyond NDAs that have not been used - and create a kickstart project. I really think they could come up with something spectacular - to really push the limits of user-centric design, when no bureaucracy or market-pressure is holding them back! And as the modern world moves - where communities can co-create and really be a driving force in change - we could see a true movement. Funded by the communities for the communities. A brand new look on mobile - something truly agile and open.

It's all filled with pixie-dust, but really - why not? With their combined know-how of software and hardware - it's more of a question about "should we", than "can we".

Lam

And to clarify - I'm not suggesting, that there is a market demand for a new OS or hardware provider. But there is a communal undercurrent in todays social scheme where people want to be involved - not because the end result is needed, but the involvement is. When people create communities, and communities create networks anything can happen! And that's the beauty of it.

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that_guy

I removed your comment as inappropriate for this thread. Thank you

For all - lets keep this thread positive suggestions and ideas for thousands of colleagues who lost their jobs, or are fearing losing them next.

Tomi Ahonen

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